Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Arguments and assumptions against multi classing
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7496470" data-attributes="member: 6919838"><p>Not one of these controlled what the player did. Each of them applied an external influence. Each of them provided an opportunity to role play - not an order to be followed. </p><p></p><p>The external influence would come from a source voluntarily accepted at chargen in GM Player discussion ". Work with your DM to determine how big a part your pact will play in your character’s adventuring career." </p><p></p><p>Indeed, the same section discusses some of various ways the patron communication happens- includes dreams and waking visions and mystical messages that only the character can see.</p><p></p><p>But "your character is hungry" is according to you "This is the worst role-playing thing a DM can do." and an attempt tp control what they do even tho it was stated in the agreement "<span style="color: #333333"><em>that you will then either act on or not,"</em></span></p><p></p><p>I can hear it now at tables running under such new era player agency...</p><p></p><p>DM: Well the trek thru the north has been tough and the going bleak. You haven't had food in days. Each of the NPCs with you is griping about the cold, lack of food and how hungry they are. But as an enlightened GM in the Eravof Player Agency Extreme I won't dare to say your PC is hungry in hope you choose to use it as a role playing opportunity. That would be unutterable wrong."</p><p></p><p>Thanks for again providing such a clear example.</p><p></p><p>EDIT TO ADD</p><p></p><p>Apparently now not providing a case for each of the three is cherry picking, so in deference to the response and claim below i will add in further examples.</p><p></p><p>DM: Well your trek has been hard and you haven't slept in many days. Each of the NPCs with you is griping about lack of sleep and are quite irritable and on edge, even angry at times from the effects of sleep deprivation.. But as an enlightened GM in the Era of Player Agency Extreme (PAX - tho pronounced like "pox" not "packs" because - pretentious) I won't dare to say your PC is sleepy or angry from the lack of sleep in hope you choose to use it as a role playing opportunity. That would be unutterable wrong."</p><p></p><p>Now, maybe this time, all cherries are left untouchers by the pickers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7496470, member: 6919838"] Not one of these controlled what the player did. Each of them applied an external influence. Each of them provided an opportunity to role play - not an order to be followed. The external influence would come from a source voluntarily accepted at chargen in GM Player discussion ". Work with your DM to determine how big a part your pact will play in your character’s adventuring career." Indeed, the same section discusses some of various ways the patron communication happens- includes dreams and waking visions and mystical messages that only the character can see. But "your character is hungry" is according to you "This is the worst role-playing thing a DM can do." and an attempt tp control what they do even tho it was stated in the agreement "[COLOR=#333333][I]that you will then either act on or not,"[/I][/COLOR] I can hear it now at tables running under such new era player agency... DM: Well the trek thru the north has been tough and the going bleak. You haven't had food in days. Each of the NPCs with you is griping about the cold, lack of food and how hungry they are. But as an enlightened GM in the Eravof Player Agency Extreme I won't dare to say your PC is hungry in hope you choose to use it as a role playing opportunity. That would be unutterable wrong." Thanks for again providing such a clear example. EDIT TO ADD Apparently now not providing a case for each of the three is cherry picking, so in deference to the response and claim below i will add in further examples. DM: Well your trek has been hard and you haven't slept in many days. Each of the NPCs with you is griping about lack of sleep and are quite irritable and on edge, even angry at times from the effects of sleep deprivation.. But as an enlightened GM in the Era of Player Agency Extreme (PAX - tho pronounced like "pox" not "packs" because - pretentious) I won't dare to say your PC is sleepy or angry from the lack of sleep in hope you choose to use it as a role playing opportunity. That would be unutterable wrong." Now, maybe this time, all cherries are left untouchers by the pickers. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Arguments and assumptions against multi classing
Top