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<blockquote data-quote="smbakeresq" data-source="post: 7497136" data-attributes="member: 28301">Really?&nbsp; This was said&nbsp; &quot;* we know that The Fiend is capable of granting 9th level spells

* we know that arcane/divine are not rules terms in 5e

* we know that some fiends, like Lolth for example, are both fiend AND god

* Odin doesn't know about this fiend messing with this paladin; gods are not omniscient in D&amp;D

* paladins don't necessarily gain their abilities from a god

* I go into similar levels of detail for EVERY PC I create. I explain whatever abilities they have, and the ideas come from me.You are correct that he didn't explicitly state that.&nbsp; But he did say Odin is not omniscient (that's not true, there is no rule that explicitly states that, its up to the DM) and of course he KNOWS that Odin doesn't know anything about this particular relationship (how would the player know that to be true?, Its also up the DM.)&nbsp; He is forcing these ideas on the DM to create a PC. You don't think that's limiting on how the DM presents Odin?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="smbakeresq, post: 7497136, member: 28301"] Really? This was said "[LEFT][COLOR=#333333][FONT=Tahoma][I]* we know that The Fiend is capable of granting 9th level spells[/I][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Tahoma][I][/I][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Tahoma][I]* we know that arcane/divine are not rules terms in 5e[/I][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Tahoma][I][/I][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Tahoma][I]* we know that some fiends, like Lolth for example, are both fiend AND god[/I][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Tahoma][I][/I][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Tahoma][I]* Odin doesn't know about this fiend messing with this paladin; gods are not omniscient in D&D[/I][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Tahoma][I][/I][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Tahoma][I]* paladins don't necessarily gain their abilities from a god[/I][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Tahoma][I][/I][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Tahoma][I]* I go into similar levels of detail for EVERY PC I create. I explain whatever abilities they have, and the ideas come from me.[/I][/FONT][/COLOR][/LEFT] You are correct that he didn't explicitly state that. But he did say Odin is not omniscient (that's not true, there is no rule that explicitly states that, its up to the DM) and of course he KNOWS that Odin doesn't know anything about this particular relationship (how would the player know that to be true?, Its also up the DM.) He is forcing these ideas on the DM to create a PC. You don't think that's limiting on how the DM presents Odin? [/QUOTE]

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