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Message: <blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7497213" data-attributes="member: 6919838">agreed but again the source is that its allowed and this leads to the three cases outlined. thats why i added the third to my "pretty binary" start.Can't discount odin might be a whimp.Again, most of these really seem to be wanting to edeificate (??) the gods of the campaign thru player mandated fluff. not a take i normally assign to fluff.As i said earlier, in my games, some classes have baggage and ties to NPCs. if you dont want that play other classes. I find the folks who want strong ties to others can play those classes quite well. they will thrive with them and work the ties between them and their patron/god/temple into the story play and make it shine. Those players that see it as a burden or worse a threat - please play something else!!!</blockquote>