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<blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 5197819" data-attributes="member: 2205">I think you'll be hard pressed to demonstrate that there's any such shift.&nbsp; Granted, I don't really know much about 4th edition, but 3rd edition was the most mutable, houserule friendly system in the history of systems.&nbsp; They even released the game with a specific license that allowed anyone to publish any houserule they wanted.&nbsp; And they published an entire book that was nothing but a gigantic collection of houserules (Unearthed Arcana.)If you think there's a shift, it's most likely an anecdotal perception on your part that is not necessarily shared by the community at large, and I doubt it'd be shared by the designers either.&nbsp; I've never seen anyone demonstrate that this is true, and in fact the evidence I cited above certainly seems to demonstrate that the opposite is true.&nbsp; Comic book, in this context, being equivalent to the widespread yet meaningless insulting buzzwords of the past such as &quot;too anime&quot; or &quot;too video-gamey&quot; or &quot;too MMOish&quot; or &quot;dungeonpunk.&quot;I think you should re-evaluate who's vision of D&amp;D is niche and who's isn't.Maybe you could give some specific ways in which the door has been closed?&nbsp; Again; I'm not really very familiar with 4e, but I have to admit I'm having a hard time envisioning any meaningful way in which any game could possibly exist with the door to houserules being closed.&nbsp; With the obvious exception of video/computer games.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Desdichado, post: 5197819, member: 2205"] I think you'll be hard pressed to demonstrate that there's any such shift. Granted, I don't really know much about 4th edition, but 3rd edition was the most mutable, houserule friendly system in the history of systems. They even released the game with a specific license that allowed anyone to publish any houserule they wanted. And they published an entire book that was nothing but a gigantic collection of houserules ([I]Unearthed Arcana[/I].) If you think there's a shift, it's most likely an anecdotal perception on your part that is not necessarily shared by the community at large, and I doubt it'd be shared by the designers either. I've never seen anyone demonstrate that this is true, and in fact the evidence I cited above certainly seems to demonstrate that the opposite is true. Comic book, in this context, being equivalent to the widespread yet meaningless insulting buzzwords of the past such as "too anime" or "too video-gamey" or "too MMOish" or "dungeonpunk." I think you should re-evaluate who's vision of D&D is niche and who's isn't. Maybe you could give some specific ways in which the door has been closed? Again; I'm not really very familiar with 4e, but I have to admit I'm having a hard time envisioning any meaningful way in which any game could possibly exist with the door to houserules being closed. With the obvious exception of video/computer games. [/QUOTE]

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