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<blockquote data-quote="gpetruc" data-source="post: 1754007" data-attributes="member: 2255"><p>Ok, I probably was taken wrong: I'm not looking for a skill based aristocrat (such as the Noble classes from Dragonlace), but a noble <strong>knight</strong> like the many ones you find in King Arthur saga (or many works from Tolkien, by the way). </p><p>I want one that is able to fight well, to lead an army or fight at a tournament, not someone who focuses on intrigue and smooth talk; it is definitely not a politician. </p><p>Consider for example Lancelot (or a prince of the Noldor elves): they definitely don't live on intrigue or politics, but they are not plain fighters (they are learned and well mannered people) nor paladins. They ares something that is missing in D&D and that I want to recreate</p><p></p><p>There could be of course different settings where institutions are more solid and a noble based mostly on skills, favours, contacts and similar abilities does the best. I don't know Rokugan, but here in the boards I've seen some sort of noble class based on Rokugan sources and it was not in the direction I am going (it had d6, bad BAB and lots of skills and so on)</p><p></p><p>For what matters the Search I was not sure about it, I will remove it. But I still don't think that they need a good reflex save; there isn't much honor in dodging a fireball, by the way, it is something for a rogue but not a knight.</p><p></p><p>To avoid confusion let's change names, then. Let's call this class <strong>Knight</strong> (or Chevalier ?) and the skill-based, less fighting one either <strong>Noble</strong> or Courtier.</p><p></p><p>Apart from this issue, what else do you think ?</p><p></p><p>Giovanni</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gpetruc, post: 1754007, member: 2255"] Ok, I probably was taken wrong: I'm not looking for a skill based aristocrat (such as the Noble classes from Dragonlace), but a noble [b]knight[/b] like the many ones you find in King Arthur saga (or many works from Tolkien, by the way). I want one that is able to fight well, to lead an army or fight at a tournament, not someone who focuses on intrigue and smooth talk; it is definitely not a politician. Consider for example Lancelot (or a prince of the Noldor elves): they definitely don't live on intrigue or politics, but they are not plain fighters (they are learned and well mannered people) nor paladins. They ares something that is missing in D&D and that I want to recreate There could be of course different settings where institutions are more solid and a noble based mostly on skills, favours, contacts and similar abilities does the best. I don't know Rokugan, but here in the boards I've seen some sort of noble class based on Rokugan sources and it was not in the direction I am going (it had d6, bad BAB and lots of skills and so on) For what matters the Search I was not sure about it, I will remove it. But I still don't think that they need a good reflex save; there isn't much honor in dodging a fireball, by the way, it is something for a rogue but not a knight. To avoid confusion let's change names, then. Let's call this class [b]Knight[/b] (or Chevalier ?) and the skill-based, less fighting one either [b]Noble[/b] or Courtier. Apart from this issue, what else do you think ? Giovanni [/QUOTE]
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