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Message: <blockquote data-quote="brehobit" data-source="post: 1462856" data-attributes="member: 12032">Some changesI think the class is still a bit weak.  The bonus feats are really like a fighter's but are generally from a "weaker" list.  And, IMO, the lower BAB, HD, prof, are not balanced by the leadership and extra skill points (at least in most games).I'd move skill points to 6 rather than 4, and provide some sort of limited ability appropriate to the world/character.  Some possiblities:Social skills: +1 unnamed bonus per 3 levels to diplomacy, sense motive and bluff in non-combat situations.Basic magical training:Tutors provided basic magical instruction.  Add spell craft to skill list, cast spells as a wizard of 1/3 level (round down).  At 1st level has 1 cantrip, at 2nd 2 cantrips.  Could instead go with bard of 1/2 level (round down).Divine blessing (Initiate)In many cultures nobles are instructed by religous figures, and in many more the nobles are somehow special in the divine scheme of things.  Cast spells as a cleric of 1/2 level (round down) but   a) must choose spells when level is gained.  Can never be changed  b) don't get domain spells.  c) spells only get returned after prayer on the holy day of the week of the church.(Also a way for gods to have a degree of control over their nobles...)  Thus won't be taking over for cleric but still helpful.Money:Might have some source of income from lands etc.  This is too world-specific to detail.Divine insightThere may be something to the idea that nobles are somehow special.  They may be the best ruler as they can best see what is _really_ going on, even if just occasinoally.  1/day/2 levels (round up) noble can do one of the following:<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Add class level to a sense motive roll.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Add class level to an appraisal roll.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Augry (sp. cleric spell 2nd level) as a free action (makes "good" guesses)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Starting at 9th level can get some clue from the DM about a situation if given a minute to assess the situation.  Anything from "That rock looks out of place" to "that man never seems to eat"</li> </ol>Just some thoughts.  I've played in a game like this before (female gamer plays noble type) and she was pretty annoyed at being fairly useless in a fight (an she was the party leader because of rank, we all worked for her!)</blockquote>

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