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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sonofapreacherman" data-source="post: 1277273" data-attributes="member: 2315">That was originally explored, but the fact that you scored a critical already indicated that you found a chink in the armor (by doing more damage than normal) and thus overcoming the damage reduction of armor by a greater amount.As per my previous post to Spatzimaus, the fact that armor bonuses and force armor bonuses can exist at the same time, allows EC to be raised by mage armor, shield, or bracers of armor, while also benefiting from wearing armor as damage reduction.Very true. Which is why I converted Weapon Finesse into using your Wisdom bonus instead, not unlike the Zen Archery feat.This idea of adding the Armor Bonus to the critical hit confirmation roll, in order to circumvent the damage reduction of that armor, has merit. Let me think on it.Is this what you meant by your earlier suggestion Spatzimaus?</blockquote>