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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TBeholder" data-source="post: 8820194" data-attributes="member: 41606">d100 Warhammer RP series from FFG have armor work like this. Armor Points often vary per location; also, armor has limitations (in the later games, all), and often extra stuff built in and/or special properties. Total damage soak is AP value of armor (minus the weapon’s Penetration) + Toughness Bonus of the target.For a mediocre vs. mediocre example: common firearms and lasguns do 1d10+3 Pen 0, Guard flak armor is AP 4 anywhere (+1 vs shrapnel), a typical non-augmented human wearing it has TB 3 (4+3=7 total soak) and 10 Wounds; thus more than half of the hits inflict at least some harm, but no immediately incapacitating injuries (except critical hits, and even then not all), which is a lot better than having all hits really hurt and 3/10 incapacitate. Obviously, using cover and other ways of not being hit so much can improve life expectancy. There are also a few types of AP 2-3 low-profile armor, which is at least better than nothing.If you don’t like flat value because body armor is not an uniform sealed sphere, take a look at Alternity (the original one, at least). But yeah, it’s yet another roll in an engine that has too many custom rolls.Armor coverage as a part of hit location roll could work better.In Riddle of Steel wound level = amount of successes (probability per die depends on the attack maneuver) from the attacker’s dice pool (depends on the skill and the maneuver) - successes of the defense + weapon damage value - armor. So it’s overwhelmed often, but every point matters, since combat is quite deadly and with unstable equilibrium (wounds reduce combat dice pool).See the examples from /tg/: <a href="https://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Riddle%20of%20Steel" target="_blank">sup/tg/ - /tg/ Archive</a></blockquote>

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