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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wolf72" data-source="post: 10939" data-attributes="member: 265">Re: Re: Armor Conversionreality smeality! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Um dunno, a consortium of gnome and elf experts (armorers/egineers)? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />[edit: hey it's not less encumbering ... it has less max dex, and a worse armor check (unless you mean the mithril version, then the answer would be: well because it's mithril!).  Only the Arcane Spell failure is better ... and that's because well ... well ...because it was designed to aide arcane users ... and ... and ... *wolf kicks black-elf-guy in the shin and runs!*Mal ... well hey, never really looked at it like that.... eek with no ACP you don't even need to have armor feat: light eitherlessee you could afford a suit of this at 8th lvl (if that's all you got) ... or the bracers at 11th lvl.I think you run into the same problem with Leaf armor (from Dragon 279) as well.  not nearly as bad as with this one though becaus the example would be padded armor (25k+) v bracers +6 (36k). (leaf armor has a -5% Arcane spell failure)[edit2: well then even a mithril buckler would be worth it too! a +5 mithril buckler would be about the same price and give you +6 to AC ... that with the leaf padded armor would be +12 to AC for less than your bracers +8 ... even with out the 'leaf' material you'd only have a -5% ASF with no penalties because padded has no armor check)um, don't really have a retort or any explanation! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ... other than roleplaying limits (not finding a caster who is willing to enchant it for that price ... or thinks your a doody-head for wearing armor and slams the door).*wolfs best brit accent* um right then, you seem to have made your point.  Anything else?</blockquote>

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