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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 8968470" data-attributes="member: 83242">I could do something like this in a gritty / dangerous version of D&D.  However, it is probably different from what your thinking. Here is my proposal:<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Keep AC as is. It still is a combination of armor and dexterity reducing the chances you take a serious blow.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">You have Hit Points and Armor Points.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Hit Points. HP is roughly size based. Depending on how dangerous you want it to be, HP = Con Mod + Strength Mod or (Con + Strength)/2 or Con + Strength. This result is multiplied by size (1 for Medium, 2 for Large, etc.). And that is it, HP either don't improve or improve very minimally.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Armor Points. Are like a type of temp. hit points and work just like HP. Each type of armor gives a different amount of points. When AP = 0, you take damage to HP. You can repair your armor to regain AP. The ease or difficulty of this depends on how dangerous you want things to be.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Shields. Not sure, but I am inclined to have them work normally.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Magic Armor. Magic armor adds to the Armor Points maybe +10 per plus per category? So +10 per plus for low and +30 per plus for heavy.  So in the table below, +3 full plate gives you 140 Armor Points? Also, maybe magic armor is semi-self repairing? Like magic items charges they regain some number of armor points per day?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Crits. Maybe critical hits avoid armor and take damage directly from HP. This might be to deadly for some.</li> </ol><a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Magic%20Items#h-Armor" target="_blank">Armor</a>��<table style='width: 100%'><tr><th><a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Magic%20Items#h-Armor" target="_blank">Armor</a></th><th>Armor Points</th><th><a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Magic%20Items#h-Armor" target="_blank">Armor</a> Class (AC)</th><th><a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Ability%20Scores#h-Strength" target="_blank">Strength</a></th><th><a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Stealth#h-Stealth" target="_blank">Stealth</a></th><th>Weight</th></tr><tr><td><a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Light#h-Light" target="_blank">Light</a> <a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Magic%20Items#h-Armor" target="_blank">Armor</a></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Padded%20Armor#h-Padded%20Armor" target="_blank">Padded</a></td><td>2</td><td>11 + <a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Rules:Ability%20Scores?expansion=0#toc_20" target="_blank">Dex modifier</a></td><td>—</td><td><a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Rules:Ability%20Scores?expansion=0#toc_2" target="_blank">Disadvantage</a></td><td>8 lb.</td></tr><tr><td><a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Leather%20Armor#h-Leather%20Armor" target="_blank">Leather</a></td><td>5</td><td>11 + Dex modifier</td><td>—</td><td>—</td><td>10 lb.</td></tr><tr><td><a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Studded%20Leather%20Armor#h-Studded%20Leather%20Armor" target="_blank">Studded leather</a></td><td>7</td><td>12 + Dex modifier</td><td>—</td><td>—</td><td>13 lb.</td></tr><tr><td><a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/The%20Battle%20Begins#h-Medium" target="_blank">Medium</a> <a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Magic%20Items#h-Armor" target="_blank">Armor</a></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Hide%20Armor#h-Hide%20Armor" target="_blank">Hide</a></td><td>10</td><td>12 + Dex modifier (max 2)</td><td>—</td><td>—</td><td>12 lb.</td></tr><tr><td><a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Chain%20Shirt#h-Chain%20Shirt" target="_blank">Chain shirt</a></td><td>15</td><td>13 + Dex modifier (max 2)</td><td>—</td><td>—</td><td>20 lb.</td></tr><tr><td><a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Scale%20Mail#h-Scale%20Mail" target="_blank">Scale mail</a></td><td>20</td><td>14 + Dex modifier (max 2)</td><td>—</td><td>Disadvantage</td><td>45 lb.</td></tr><tr><td><a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Breastplate#h-Breastplate" target="_blank">Breastplate</a></td><td>25</td><td>14 + Dex modifier (max 2)</td><td>—</td><td>—</td><td>20 lb.</td></tr><tr><td><a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Half%20Plate#h-Half%20Plate" target="_blank">Half plate</a></td><td>30</td><td>15 + Dex modifier (max 2)</td><td>—</td><td>Disadvantage</td><td>40 lb.</td></tr><tr><td><a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Weapons#h-Heavy" target="_blank">Heavy</a> <a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Magic%20Items#h-Armor" target="_blank">Armor</a></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Ring%20Mail#h-Ring%20Mail" target="_blank">Ring mail</a></td><td>35</td><td>14</td><td>—</td><td>Disadvantage</td><td>40 lb.</td></tr><tr><td><a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Chain%20Mail#h-Chain%20Mail" target="_blank">Chain mail</a></td><td>40</td><td>16</td><td><a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Rules:Ability%20Scores?expansion=0#toc_12" target="_blank">Str</a> 13</td><td>Disadvantage</td><td>55 lb.</td></tr><tr><td><a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Splint%20Armor#h-Splint%20Armor" target="_blank">Splint</a></td><td>45</td><td>17</td><td>Str 15</td><td>Disadvantage</td><td>60 lb.</td></tr><tr><td><a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Plate%20Armor#h-Plate%20Armor" target="_blank">Plate</a></td><td>50</td><td>18</td><td>Str 15</td><td>Disadvantage</td><td>65 lb.</td></tr></table>There of course things to consider with this proposal. Such as: any spell that is reliant on hit points probably needs to be revised. Healing spells are less effective, but Sleep would be way more effective. Things like that.</blockquote>

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