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Message: <blockquote data-quote="seasong" data-source="post: 879837" data-attributes="member: 5137">To clarify (and modify) my position:1. Heavy armor is balanced against light armor. I still stand by this <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.2. That doesn't mean there isn't a problem with it.The problem, I think, comes into the price. Heavy armor is more expensive, and you should get something better for that, not roughly equal. Your 3rd level fighter example was a good one, and the reason why is because the chain shirt guy could afford a +1 and the full plate guy couldn't... at which point, the cost of the full plate made it less good.Anyway, the more I look at it, the more it needs something to improve it relative to light armor. So consider this a retraction, and now I'm ready to start discussing the house rules themselves (sorry <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />):Light armorsThe Max DEX here gets ridiculous. Also, the final maximum for the AC drops as the price rises. A DEX range of +7, +6, +5, +4 would keep the maximum AC even, while still not mattering to anyone but a 16th level elf archer.Medium armorsHere, the maximum AC goes up; the max DEX also remains more stable, which I can only see as a good thing. There's no reason to yank the rug out from the breastplate, though - I'd leave it at Max DEX +3.Heavy armorsThe DR 1/- is interesting. I like it!Full plate, at 4x the price of banded, only provides a +1 advantage. Half plate provides no advantage at all, by your own description. Leaving the Max DEX at +2 would have a better effect, as would leaving it as you have it, but increasing the DR to 2/-.You would also personally never play a melee fighter with heavy armor, if I've heard you right <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. And I would agree an archer in heavy armor is normally best for a teamwork party... but he can really rack up kills in such a situation.</blockquote>

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