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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nyaricus" data-source="post: 2605412" data-attributes="member: 35678">Some Considerations ...cool PrC concept, i like the idea of a true tank in D&D (although being the stickler i am, i wouldnt allow this PrC IMC, i like it all the same) anyways, heres a few points i have.the Master of Armour ability seems horribly misanthropic. i dont believe there is another special ability from a PrC that needs 3 different ability scores to use. you will get the clerics in your world taking this PrC once they have enough spells just to get the Wis bonus to AC while still wearing armours. its like a monk on steroids! also, you will get wizard/fighters/spellswords taking levels in this to get the int bonus and no arcane spellfailure, and armour special abilities to boot! i think you need to re-consider this ability majorly.the weapon focus (any 1-H weapon) is inappropriate. a fighter will be able to get into this class all the same, and would have the feat anyways (so long as he is a smart fighter <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue    :P"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />). as for those who would say (oh, well any class could potentially give up the weapon focus feat, take into consideration that only the fighter is prof. in ALL shields. so someone who has 0 levels in fighter is now using up two feats to get into this class, adn since the base fort save sets upthis class for level 8 fighters, thast 2/3 feats by that level. That said, this is definitivly a fighter clas-oriented PrC, maybe one of the most restricting (but well made ones) in a while.On top of that, your wording is wrong for the armour profs in the requirements (all amrous would include all exotic armours, which is a part of your Armour versitility Ability); re-word so that it says Armour Prof: Light, Medium, Heavy. clarification is key here.Armor Versatility is a well-flavoured ability, but not well-balanced. the character has probably already equipped himself with his optimal armour, and doesnt really need this ability. my suggestion: at every odd level, you gain prof. in any exotic armor or shield that has a base armor bonus less than or equal to his RAG class level. In order to gain this benefit, he must wear the armor for an entire day, moving around in it and practicing his weapon attacks, etc.Tempered Steel is an awesome ability, and should stay at 4th level. it encourages actually putting levels into this PrC, adn is usful in ertain types of games.your skill list is not very appropriate. spot/listen? those are scouting skills, and you are not a scout-ie character. you are clunking around like a mini-tank. just use the fighters skill selections.also, unless you are planning to take this PrC into epic levels, id say shrink him down to a 5 level PrC, and figure out a sweet ability for 5th level. that would add to the overall balance of the class, and wouldnt stress you out too much about all those other levels. Also, your initial PrC seems a bit .... underpowered. a definite scapegoat to min-maxers (esp clerics or wiz/fighter/spellswords as mentioned before). I can for sure help you with this, if you decide to do it that way. personally, i think this is a PrC with awesome flavour > it just needs some guidance. till next time.</blockquote>

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