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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nyaricus" data-source="post: 2619166" data-attributes="member: 35678">yeah; some people either say without thinking or think without saying. The key to life is finding the balance > Say what you must, when you must or keeping ones thoughts to ones self.heh heh > lemme guess your religion . . .hmm . . .scientology??yeah, i am kinda always all over the place; work, school and friends to do wonders to ones sense of time (and status in it) <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue    :P"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />no problem; no nerves were got on.actually, i knew that, just forgot; mostly, i was referring to the use of bows as samurai weapons, but you've made your point, and i get what you mean.    okay, perhaps the last line of thought in here (i am feeling it is almost getting more and more futile to argue this but perhaps this will finally change your mind . . .) Also, your bonuses are useful only when in armour; the unnamed bonus would be in effect all the time, and would be balanced no matter what the characters stats look like. Again, i feel clerics would be too inclined to take levels in this class just for that boon (at the expense of spells, of course).     I was thinking about a rebuttle (i know that isnt spelt right . . .) for this Int/Wis/Con bit, and it finally came to me. the reason i wouldnt use this is because, simply, you are going against the description of this class > you are tryign to get guys who use heavy armours to grab this class, and yet at level two you are letting duelist types and such grab a nifty class ability. i say, let the dexterous PrCs stick with the dexterous PrC abilites, and you should focus on the heavy armour PrC class abilities.wanna add what you are planning to my weapon group prof thread?? <a href="http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?p=2591830#post2591830" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?p=2591830#post2591830</a> is the link. Much appreciatedactually, i say go for half damage, and up this ability a bit. After all, you gotta wait 10 levels to get soemthing that only works on a sunder attempt, assuming the attacker doesnt have the "improved Sunder" feat. i say, let this bastion of defense ability negate the negated attack of oppertunity > Meaning a Sunder attempt still provokes an attack of Oppertunity, no matter if the attacker has the Improved Sunder feat or not.    It may be worthwhile to note that i run Campaigns that feature Armour, Shield and Weapon deterioration. To simplify rules, when you are being attacked, and the attacker misses, you roll a d20, and consult a Strike Table to see what the attack hit; then, you minus your items Hardness off the damage, adn all the rest of the damage left over goes to the items hitpoints. (for example, an orc swings at you with a greataxe and misses. you roll a d20, and refer to your melee strike chart to see what he hit. he got your chainmail armour (which in this system has Hardness/HP of 10/80) for a total of 13 damage. so, 13-10 = 3, so the orc did 3 damage to your chainmail, which now has 77 HP. Everytime your equipment goes down by 25% of its HP, it degrades (it weapons have -1 to hit/damage, etc) More details can be found in From Stone To Steel (both a book and a buyable PDF). So, for your Bastion of Defense ability, i'd rule that all damage to armour is halved, in addition to the other abilities.Your Second Skim is fine as it, and doesnt make anything too overpoweredAdamantine Warrior or Warden? your original (edited) entry uses both>check it over and edit it. Also, with all our refernces to RAG, id add a NOTE (ie RAG refers to the proto-Adamantine Warden class, which was nick-named Really Armoured Guy, so please keep that in mind in reading subsequent Replies, etc) to the end letting people know what that is, otherwise the "WTF??" haha, actually, its kinda like a birthday. you want to get there s bad, and when you do, its like "meh" fun when i got there though <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />anyways, we shal see what further debates/ideas your response brings . . . <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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