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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 4774258" data-attributes="member: 5890"><a href="http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1157271&page=2" target="_blank">Saint of Killers: Tempest/Student of Caiphon/Punisher of the Gods (311.65 dpr) build - Page 2 - Wizards Community</a>300-odd dpr. A ridiculous build to be sure, but that's the sort of spread that is technically possible.Unfortunately I can't find where the "list of highest fighter DPRs" is, as it has a dual-wielding weapon talent fighter that hits 200 IIRC, which is slightly more towards the "things that actually might be playable".A low AC for the level you are at is around 21 (14 + 6 for a 22 stat, +1 armor), so we're looking at a 6 point spread.A mage of that level who doesn't put much into con will have 42 hitpoints. You have 78.If a hobgoblin hand of bane is pinned between you and the wizard, he will, on average, cause 57.5% of a healing surge worth of damage to the wizard on a hit. He will cause 18.2% of a healing surge worth of damage to you on a hit. Provoking an attack from you will cause him 36.6% of a surge worth of damage.Now, I'll do something wierd, but I think it's sound in terms of working out a metric. I'm going to subtract the healing surge percentage he takes in damage from the healing surge percentage that he deals to the wizard. We end up with 20.9%, which is greater than the metric for attacking you (18.2%).Hence he's slightly better off attacking the wizard (assuming you and the wizard have roughly identical value as tactical targets).If your average damage was 2 points higher, then he's better off attacking you.If your AC increases by 2 points, then you need to get your average damage to 27.5 (ie - 5 points higher) to make attacking you the attractive choice.All of this is with his at-will btw.Edit: Whoops, missed distracting shield. That changes our resultant metric to ~9.3% (because he now only causes 0.46% of a surge to the wizard, assuming that you always hit, just to make the maths easier), which means he is better off attacking you with his at-will.However with his special, he's better off attacking the wizard again (the metric for attacking the wizard is 31.3% and the metric for attacking you is 26%). And that doesn't include the stun.Incidentally - my position is that a foe knows that he's marked. I would leave it up to the PC to determine whether the foe knows the exact consequence of the mark (I imagine most fighters want their foe to know that they'll get attacked for breaking it).</blockquote>

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