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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Goumindong" data-source="post: 4774426" data-attributes="member: 70874">That is because the text of the ability that the paladin uses expressly lays out the penalties for disobeying. But the text of the ability that the fighter uses does not.lets be really clear herePaladin: Special mark that does damage if you don't attack the paladinFighter: Gets an immediate interrupt ability that lets him hit anyone who shifts or does not attack him if that person is marked by him.So lets lay it out againPaladin: Special MarkFighter: Regular Markone is an effect of the mark and one is another ability that is triggered by enemies who happen to be marked.I suppose if i was going to be as semantic about this as you were. Despite the fact that wizards has made it abundantly clear with their information in the compendium. I would say that "in addition" is modifying the fighter ability. I.E. Combat Challenge grants 2 things. 1 it grants the mark ability and 2 it grants the extra attack ability.Whereas with the Paladin, the "also" is modifying the power, or the ability. Such that this is one ability that does two things, not one entry that grants two abilities.Except that its not, so your argument doesn't make any sense. Fighters combat challenge works on any enemy that has been marked by any reason. Its two separate abilities.Fighter: Normal markPaladin: special markSo you're saying that the monster knows whether or not i will attack it and what attack i am going to use against it if it moves adjacent to me? Really?I also have "come and get it", does that mean the monster is going to know that i will use it on him if he is within 3 squares of me?[does he know that when I don't know it?]The rules state that the monsters know the effects of abilites imposed upon it. It does not state that the monster knows your power set that you have just because they could possibly trigger one of those powers or abilities.</blockquote>

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