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<blockquote data-quote="Goumindong" data-source="post: 4774865" data-attributes="member: 70874"><p>Yes, the Paladin power is different. That is because its a different ability with different effects. I am not sure what is so amazingly profound about this.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and the Paladins marks damage doesn't require an action or line of effect from the Paladin as far as I am aware. The damage is pure divine retribution. It does not stop the Paladin from taking other immediate actions[as the fighters ability does].</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Depends on the power. If the power is an ability used on the monster that makes the monster grant CA then yes, it knows. Why does it know? It knows because in the powers text it says "the monster grants CA" and the monsters know the effects of all powers used on it.</p><p></p><p>If the power was not used on a monster and simply says "you have combat advantage on the next attack you make" then the monster does not know, because you did not use any power on them and it is not within the basic combat knowledge of the game.</p><p></p><p>And no, i did not "avoid the question"</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> 1.It assumes no such thing, even though such a thing might be a reasonable assertion. What it assumes is that the enemy does not know the capabilities of the party before the party uses those capabilities. Just as the party does not know the enemies capabilities before the enemies use them without the use of heavy metagaming of the "bad" sort.[Bad as in, "not endorsed" since some level of metagaming is expected, but game knowledge is not and its expected that said game knowledge is ingored by players even when they do know it if their players would not]</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Except they don't know "something bad will happen" with the fighter because there is no indication of it. For the sword mage, its the same as the Paladin, the marks are special marks. If you mark someone without using your Aegis of Assault, you do not get to teleport over and smack it. Why do you not get to teleport over and smack it? Becacuse the power is tied to the special mark and not an immediate ability triggered any marked creature.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, that is not the "simpler" view. Both are equally simple. Enemies do not know they might be the subject of a trigger unless that trigger is specifically spelled out within a power that has already been activated upon them.</p><p></p><p>If an ally has a razor shield, enemies do not know that they could trigger it just because they attack him(or by your example, could attack him). They only know that they trigger it when the other guy makes it happen.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Goumindong, post: 4774865, member: 70874"] Yes, the Paladin power is different. That is because its a different ability with different effects. I am not sure what is so amazingly profound about this. Oh, and the Paladins marks damage doesn't require an action or line of effect from the Paladin as far as I am aware. The damage is pure divine retribution. It does not stop the Paladin from taking other immediate actions[as the fighters ability does]. Depends on the power. If the power is an ability used on the monster that makes the monster grant CA then yes, it knows. Why does it know? It knows because in the powers text it says "the monster grants CA" and the monsters know the effects of all powers used on it. If the power was not used on a monster and simply says "you have combat advantage on the next attack you make" then the monster does not know, because you did not use any power on them and it is not within the basic combat knowledge of the game. And no, i did not "avoid the question" 1.It assumes no such thing, even though such a thing might be a reasonable assertion. What it assumes is that the enemy does not know the capabilities of the party before the party uses those capabilities. Just as the party does not know the enemies capabilities before the enemies use them without the use of heavy metagaming of the "bad" sort.[Bad as in, "not endorsed" since some level of metagaming is expected, but game knowledge is not and its expected that said game knowledge is ingored by players even when they do know it if their players would not] Except they don't know "something bad will happen" with the fighter because there is no indication of it. For the sword mage, its the same as the Paladin, the marks are special marks. If you mark someone without using your Aegis of Assault, you do not get to teleport over and smack it. Why do you not get to teleport over and smack it? Becacuse the power is tied to the special mark and not an immediate ability triggered any marked creature. No, that is not the "simpler" view. Both are equally simple. Enemies do not know they might be the subject of a trigger unless that trigger is specifically spelled out within a power that has already been activated upon them. If an ally has a razor shield, enemies do not know that they could trigger it just because they attack him(or by your example, could attack him). They only know that they trigger it when the other guy makes it happen. [/QUOTE]
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