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<blockquote data-quote="Goumindong" data-source="post: 4775604" data-attributes="member: 70874"><p>So what you're saying is that its incorrect because people might incorrectly interpret it? You're aware that you're arguing that I am incorrectly interpreting it... right?</p><p></p><p></p><p>I am also not sure how "no opening" factors into this. It works just like the combat challenge immediate interrupt. It may or may not be used and the enemy does not know about the fact that it may or may not be used until it is used.</p><p></p><p>In fact, the ONLY difference between "No Opening" and the combat challenge immediate interrupt ability is that one of them is an at-will and one of them is an encounter ability.</p><p></p><p>Do you make sure that your enemies know about all these interrupt abilities because they might possibly be triggered? Does an enemy attacking your wizard know that he might use a shield to interrupt the attack and not be hit? Where does this mystical insight on powers and abilities come from?</p><p></p><p>Because it does make a difference. In fact, i've been laying it out why it makes a difference over and over again. </p><p></p><p><strong>WHERE IS THE RULE THAT SAYS IT DOES!</strong></p><p></p><p>The rule is that they know what you do to them. The rule is not "they know what you do to them but if its a mark, they also know what you might maybe do to them with any powers that specifically affect marked targets"</p><p></p><p>edit:</p><p></p><p>When you're marked, do you know that the ranger might "Fox Shift" if it hits you in melee? That also triggers off a marked enemy.</p><p></p><p>Does he know that if he becomes bloodied that you can "Jackal Strike" him into the ground?</p><p></p><p>What about "Menacing Stance", do they know you might possibly use that and make them grant CA as well as the attack for attacking someone else?</p><p></p><p>I bet they also know about the shield adepts "Sudden Shield Bash" too, and "Marked Beating" because those are all also powers that can only be used against marked creatures.</p><p></p><p>To answer my rhetorical question, no , they do not know about those powers until they happen, just as they do not know about CC until it happens.</p><p></p><p>I am sorry, would you please point out where it says that "all marks the fighter creates have the following ability tacked onto them" or "all marks the fighter or his allies create that are sourced to the fighter have the following ability tacked onto them".</p><p></p><p>I am waiting with baited breath.</p><p></p><p>Except for the fact that combat challenge makes no mention anywhere of the ability being tied to any special mark, and aegis of assault specifically mentions, in the powers description, exactly what you can do, yes.</p><p></p><p>Which is to say, no, you're entirely wrong.</p><p></p><p>It might not be consistent with your psuedo logic, but it is totally consistent with the way the rules are written.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Goumindong, post: 4775604, member: 70874"] So what you're saying is that its incorrect because people might incorrectly interpret it? You're aware that you're arguing that I am incorrectly interpreting it... right? I am also not sure how "no opening" factors into this. It works just like the combat challenge immediate interrupt. It may or may not be used and the enemy does not know about the fact that it may or may not be used until it is used. In fact, the ONLY difference between "No Opening" and the combat challenge immediate interrupt ability is that one of them is an at-will and one of them is an encounter ability. Do you make sure that your enemies know about all these interrupt abilities because they might possibly be triggered? Does an enemy attacking your wizard know that he might use a shield to interrupt the attack and not be hit? Where does this mystical insight on powers and abilities come from? Because it does make a difference. In fact, i've been laying it out why it makes a difference over and over again. [B]WHERE IS THE RULE THAT SAYS IT DOES![/B] The rule is that they know what you do to them. The rule is not "they know what you do to them but if its a mark, they also know what you might maybe do to them with any powers that specifically affect marked targets" edit: When you're marked, do you know that the ranger might "Fox Shift" if it hits you in melee? That also triggers off a marked enemy. Does he know that if he becomes bloodied that you can "Jackal Strike" him into the ground? What about "Menacing Stance", do they know you might possibly use that and make them grant CA as well as the attack for attacking someone else? I bet they also know about the shield adepts "Sudden Shield Bash" too, and "Marked Beating" because those are all also powers that can only be used against marked creatures. To answer my rhetorical question, no , they do not know about those powers until they happen, just as they do not know about CC until it happens. I am sorry, would you please point out where it says that "all marks the fighter creates have the following ability tacked onto them" or "all marks the fighter or his allies create that are sourced to the fighter have the following ability tacked onto them". I am waiting with baited breath. Except for the fact that combat challenge makes no mention anywhere of the ability being tied to any special mark, and aegis of assault specifically mentions, in the powers description, exactly what you can do, yes. Which is to say, no, you're entirely wrong. It might not be consistent with your psuedo logic, but it is totally consistent with the way the rules are written. [/QUOTE]
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