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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 4778407" data-attributes="member: 2011">See, this is the first preconceived notion of yours.If one view it as "CC is one ability, here are the rules for CC", then it is a single ability. It has qualifiers. It has times it works and times it does not work and times part of it works and times part of it does not work.But, it is always a single Class Feature for the Fighter, just like Aegis of Assault is a single Class Feature for the Swordmage.The monster is not affected by a mark and an interrupt, it is affected by a Combat Challenge. Even if only part of that class feature is applicable in some circumstances.It's a paradigm shift away from your POV to interpret it this way.Says who? Again, you are making a logic leap that is not written there.Just because you can come up with this "that would mean" logic chain conceptionally does not make it a rule in fact.I'm sorry that I cannot explain this so that you can understand it. People have a hard time breaking out of their thought processes and I'm not smart enough to get you to do so.In this case, even considering them as separate abilities does not by definition mean that the power is not affected by both of them and hence, the monster knows both of them.Logically, there could be 50 ways to modify the power (e.g. adding stun to it) and the monster would know if the power was modified that way.So again, your logic leap here is an interpretation. Just because you might not be able to see that does not change it. In any case, I understand your POV and how you got there. It's unfortunate that you cannot understand mine, but ...And the most recent modifications are the PHB plus errata. Not a paid web service that all DMs do not have access to.</blockquote>

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