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<blockquote data-quote="WalterKovacs" data-source="post: 4780106" data-attributes="member: 63763"><p>I don't think I've actually seen this specifically:</p><p> </p><p>If you aren't a paladin you need 15 STR and CON to get plate.</p><p> </p><p>If you are proficient in Plate and you <em>aren't</em> a Paladin, you are automatically qualified for Plate Specialization.</p><p> </p><p>For Hide, you need Con, which doesn't apply to your AC defense. For Chain and Scale, you need Dex, which will <em>not</em> help your AC, and will qualify you for Shield Specialization anyway. This means you need to choose whether to take Shield Spec or Chain/Scale Spec. So, you have to compare the Reflex bonus to getting back the speed or armor check penalty.</p><p> </p><p>On the other hand, you have Scale where you automatically qualify for the feat if you are proficient (unless you are a Paladin). So it's 'easy', and gives just a +1 to AC. If you use a shield you <em>can</em> also go with Dex (meaning you need 15 in STR, CON and DEX if you aren't a Paladin) and get the reflex bonus as well.</p><p> </p><p>In the case of Scale Spec Vs. Shield Spec the prerequisites are effectively the same (proficiency and Dex 15), so each has a different 'bonus'. However, the Scale Spec Vs. Shield Spec have different prereqs. Again, unless you are a Paladin, you don't have to worry about getting the 15 CON to meet the prerequisites in addition to the Scale Prof, so it's pretty much just 1 prerequisite, not two. That is why it gives less, because it <em>costs</em> less.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WalterKovacs, post: 4780106, member: 63763"] I don't think I've actually seen this specifically: If you aren't a paladin you need 15 STR and CON to get plate. If you are proficient in Plate and you [i]aren't[/i] a Paladin, you are automatically qualified for Plate Specialization. For Hide, you need Con, which doesn't apply to your AC defense. For Chain and Scale, you need Dex, which will [i]not[/i] help your AC, and will qualify you for Shield Specialization anyway. This means you need to choose whether to take Shield Spec or Chain/Scale Spec. So, you have to compare the Reflex bonus to getting back the speed or armor check penalty. On the other hand, you have Scale where you automatically qualify for the feat if you are proficient (unless you are a Paladin). So it's 'easy', and gives just a +1 to AC. If you use a shield you [i]can[/i] also go with Dex (meaning you need 15 in STR, CON and DEX if you aren't a Paladin) and get the reflex bonus as well. In the case of Scale Spec Vs. Shield Spec the prerequisites are effectively the same (proficiency and Dex 15), so each has a different 'bonus'. However, the Scale Spec Vs. Shield Spec have different prereqs. Again, unless you are a Paladin, you don't have to worry about getting the 15 CON to meet the prerequisites in addition to the Scale Prof, so it's pretty much just 1 prerequisite, not two. That is why it gives less, because it [i]costs[/i] less. [/QUOTE]
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