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<blockquote data-quote="Drakon66" data-source="post: 1780818" data-attributes="member: 24470">Thanks for posting the rules of &quot;Armor Spikes&quot; and &quot;Two Weapon Fighting&quot;, but my question still stands.&nbsp; What fell outside of these two rules?&nbsp; In the action described in my first post, both my hands are on my two handed sword, so I'm not making an &quot;off handed&quot; attack.&nbsp; Second, I'm not attempting to grapple in any way so the grapple penelty does not apply.&nbsp; Third, if the spikes are attached to my armor and my armor is attached to me, such as it is, if I &quot;FELL&quot; into somebody would there be a possibility they would take damage from the spikes?&nbsp; If the answer is yes, then it would be possible to intentionally &quot;Fall&quot; into a target while weilding a weapon and cause damage with my spikes.&nbsp; If the answer is no, then I need a description of how physics changes from accidental impact to intentional impact.&nbsp; I'm not saying it is a free attack.&nbsp; An attack role would have to be made if the &quot;Fall&quot; was intentional or accidental, but I don't see that this fits either of these rules.&nbsp; I fully believe in, and encourage, role playing combat to the highest degree possible.&nbsp; That is why I'm asking about these rules as they are.&nbsp; Have we found a loop hole?&nbsp; And how would you guys rule this if you were the DM?I would seriously like to know.&nbsp; Have I missed something?Thanks again to Argo and King Ghidorah for posting the specific rules.Jeff</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Drakon66, post: 1780818, member: 24470"] Thanks for posting the rules of "Armor Spikes" and "Two Weapon Fighting", but my question still stands. What fell outside of these two rules? In the action described in my first post, both my hands are on my two handed sword, so I'm not making an "off handed" attack. Second, I'm not attempting to grapple in any way so the grapple penelty does not apply. Third, if the spikes are attached to my armor and my armor is attached to me, such as it is, if I "FELL" into somebody would there be a [U][B]possibility[/B][/U] they would take damage from the spikes? If the answer is yes, then it would be possible to intentionally "Fall" into a target while weilding a weapon and cause damage with my spikes. If the answer is no, then I need a description of how physics changes from accidental impact to intentional impact. I'm not saying it is a free attack. An attack role would have to be made if the "Fall" was intentional or accidental, but I don't see that this fits either of these rules. I fully believe in, and encourage, role playing combat to the highest degree possible. That is why I'm asking about these rules as they are. Have we found a loop hole? And how would you guys rule this if you were the DM? I would seriously like to know. Have I missed something? Thanks again to Argo and King Ghidorah for posting the specific rules. Jeff [/QUOTE]

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