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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Winternight" data-source="post: 1158082" data-attributes="member: 11173">More gory systemWhat about another, but simelar aproach.Plate has hardness 14chain has hardness 8mithril adds 7 points leather has hardness 4the AC bonus is how much of the body is cover by the armorso leather armor would be +6 ACchain mail +6breat plate +4and full plate +7 name AC Bonus HardnessMithrill Chain mail +6 / 15 (MCM)fullplate +8/ 10 FPleather +4/4  LAthus a fighter with dex 14 and no other AC boni would have with a) MCM AC 12/18/15b) FP   AC  11/19/10c) LA   AC  12/16/4If I hit the fighter over his Dodge bonus I hit hte armor instead, the armor subract the hardness from the damage dealt. If I hit over The complet AC I bypass the armor and deal damage to the fighterhere is a table with some resluts. (see also attached file, it is the same only better formated) Fighter..........hit AC 11.....Damage 10.....damage 15.....damage 20A..........miss..........--..........--..........--B..........hit armor .....none..........5..........10C..........miss..........--..........--..........--Fighter..........hit AC 13.....Damage 10.....damage 15.....damage 20A..........hit armor .....none..........none..........1B..........hit armor.....none..........5..........10C..........hit armor.....6..........9..........14Fighter..........hit AC 17.....Damage 10.....damage 15.....damage 20A..........hit armor .....none..........none..........1B..........hit armor.....none..........5..........10C..........hit PC ..........10..........15..........20Fighter..........hit AC 18.....Damage 10.....damage 15.....damage 20A..........hit PC ..........10..........15..........20B..........hit armor.....none..........5..........10C..........hit PC ..........10..........15..........20Fighter..........hit AC 20.....Damage 10.....damage 15.....damage 20A..........hit PC ..........10..........15..........20B..........hit PC..........10..........15..........20C..........hit PC ..........10..........15..........20Result is PC (NPC) get more hit loose more hit points. Dex is important as the material is more important than in 3.0/3.5 It is only a bookkeeping bad dream. As DM you say: I hit your character with ac 15 and deal 16 Damage. (no change)As player: you have three Armorvalue instead of one. AC-dodge/AC-armor/hardness. I think that`s playable. question a) do you understand the system?b) what do you think of it?</blockquote>

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