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<blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 8591045" data-attributes="member: 6877472">You're right in that adding +1's every level isn't necessary.&nbsp; It's one of those things that was done for 2 reasons.&nbsp;&nbsp; The first is, that's how it had been done since the very beginning, more or less.&nbsp; You go up a level, your attack bonus increases based on a formula.The second is kind of a failsafe against falling behind.&nbsp; You can see this in action in 5e as well- character A starts with a 14 Strength and has a +4 to hit.&nbsp; Character B starts with a 16 Strength and has +5 to hit.At level 4, Character A decides to take a feat that sounds cool to him, let's call it, &quot;Iron Chef Cooking Master&quot;.&nbsp; It only increases Strength by +1.&nbsp; No change to attack bonus.Character B decides to use their ASI as the Gaming Gods intended and raises his Strength to 18, now they have +6 to hit.&nbsp; Eventually this problem can fix itself, but it may take a very long time before both characters have the same attack bonus.Any system that automatically increases numbers as you level is setting a floor.&nbsp; 5e does this more gradually, as proficiency bonus only increases a few times over the course of your career.&nbsp; 5e thus sets the floor pretty low, which is fine if you don't want to repeat the kobold/goblin/hobgoblin/orc/bugbear/ogre/troll/hill giant/stone giant/fire giant, etc. etc. loop.However!&nbsp; And this is worth pointing out.&nbsp; 4e was perfectly capable of doing exactly what bounded accuracy does.&nbsp; You could just raise monsters a level.&nbsp; Done.&nbsp; I ran a Feywild adventure where my 11th level PC's had to assault a mountain infested by Fey goblins (apparently, I was ahead of my time).Did I have to create new monsters?&nbsp; Nope, I just went to the DM tools, selected &quot;goblin&quot; and cranked up it's level to 10.&nbsp; Huzzah, 10th level Goblins.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="James Gasik, post: 8591045, member: 6877472"] You're right in that adding +1's every level isn't necessary. It's one of those things that was done for 2 reasons. The first is, that's how it had been done since the very beginning, more or less. You go up a level, your attack bonus increases based on a formula. The second is kind of a failsafe against falling behind. You can see this in action in 5e as well- character A starts with a 14 Strength and has a +4 to hit. Character B starts with a 16 Strength and has +5 to hit. At level 4, Character A decides to take a feat that sounds cool to him, let's call it, "Iron Chef Cooking Master". It only increases Strength by +1. No change to attack bonus. Character B decides to use their ASI as the Gaming Gods intended and raises his Strength to 18, now they have +6 to hit. [B]Eventually[/B] this problem can fix itself, but it may take a very long time before both characters have the same attack bonus. Any system that automatically increases numbers as you level is setting a floor. 5e does this more gradually, as proficiency bonus only increases a few times over the course of your career. 5e thus sets the floor pretty low, which is fine if you don't want to repeat the kobold/goblin/hobgoblin/orc/bugbear/ogre/troll/hill giant/stone giant/fire giant, etc. etc. loop. However! And this is worth pointing out. 4e was perfectly capable of doing exactly what bounded accuracy does. You could just raise monsters a level. Done. I ran a Feywild adventure where my 11th level PC's had to assault a mountain infested by Fey goblins (apparently, I was ahead of my time). Did I have to create new monsters? Nope, I just went to the DM tools, selected "goblin" and cranked up it's level to 10. Huzzah, 10th level Goblins. [/QUOTE]

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