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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thels" data-source="post: 912891" data-attributes="member: 12176">Yeah, though you shouldn't overuse it, at-night surprises happen, be ready for them. Also, if you count donning armor time (which you should), keep good track of the time spellcasters spend on their spell memorization as well.There's other ways to handle armor problems... By level 10-12, they could easily afford a 2nd armor besides their bulky armor they can't sleep in. You can get proper sleep in any armor with up to -4 on ACP. That includes all but Chainmail and Heavy Armors. So just have a breastplate around for backup purposes such as this (my characters usually prefer Chain shirt as a backup armor, only 1 less than the Breastplate, but hey, it's light armor!). Actually, i consider the -5 pretty high... I'd rather see -2 or -3.If you don't have the means to carry a 2nd armor around, then resort to other ideas. Clerics can keep a Magic Vestment memorized for cases like this. Fighters and Paladins oughta talk to some of the spellcasters in the party. If the rest expects them to do frontline work, they better provide them with some cover (Mage Armor, Magic Vestment, Barkskin). If they refuse, then next time just don't step in to the frontline and they'll probably reconsider.Then again, they're not required to participate in every action. One time in my party, we were in some dark forest. Most of the party decided to start travelling right at dawn, so we could get out of there ASAP. Druid thought otherwise and started memorizing spells. The rest of the party got frustrated of him, but most didn't want to leave him behind. After a little while we heard something coming our direction, mowing trees down as it approached. That was enough for me, and I decided to go, telling the others to come with me. The others tried to convince the druid to come, who didn't and so they stayed, while I left. It ended up with me (1 of the 2 frontfighters) not being in the encounter and the other frontfighter dying in the encounter. So, I missed the encounter in favor of letting my character live. My choice, and I certainly did not blame the DM for that (The druid told the DM that my LG alignment needed revision, but that was an entirely different matter. Something my DM did not go in on btw).Seems like your player just has some growing up to do.</blockquote>

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