Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Armour Dilemma: Am I Wrong Here?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Darth Shoju" data-source="post: 920496" data-attributes="member: 11397"><p><strong>?</strong></p><p></p><p><em>Originally posted by Numion</em></p><p>"You're screwing your players because you enforce realism in the armor dressing to the point, but let your NPC react with unrealistic speed to the same situation."</p><p></p><p>I don't believe he was having his NPC react with unrealistic speed: </p><p></p><p><em>Originally posted by Fusangite</em></p><p>"Time to fly to the ducal palace while hasted: 2 rounds (it was 120 yards away)</p><p>*snip*</p><p>Time to say "The vampires are attacking the now and killing the city guard. Can you help us?": 1 round (I just timed myself saying these words -- it took 4 seconds)</p><p>Time for the duke to cast Haste and Fly: 1 round</p><p>Time to fly back to the combat from inside the palace: 3 rounds</p><p></p><p>Given that the city had just held a public meeting called by the duke, a mere 5 hours before about the vampire threat and stationed an extra 80 troops on the earthwork walls around the tower because of what they perceived to be an impending disaster, it was not difficult to explain to the duke either that this event was happening nor the urgency of responding to said event."</p><p></p><p>It seems to me that the Duke, having just discussed the potential vampire attack at the council would likely be awake. After all, vampires pretty much have to attack at night (unless they take some heavy measures to do so in the daytime), so he really could have been anticipating getting word of the attack, thus he was ready to go with little notice. Since the battle wasn't far away, he would have likely heard the explosion too. When the PC came in and gave his warning I would expect it would have been little surprise to the Duke, who then hasted himself up and flew to the battleground. </p><p></p><p>Not only is this within the rules but I don't see how it is a bad encounter. The PCs had reason to believe an attack would take place, and some of them seemed to be uninterested in preparing for that (as far as their armour was concerned). Even after the attack begun, it seems they wouldn't have been in over their heads rushing in without armour as they had prepared many spells that would be perfect for the encounter, and wouldn't have had to face all of the vampires at one time anyway. In fact, their spell selection does seem to indicate that they did anticipate an attack yet they weren't prepped as far as armour. IMO they just assumed they'd be able to don their armour in no time, which was their mistake, not the DM's.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Darth Shoju, post: 920496, member: 11397"] [b]?[/b] [I]Originally posted by Numion[/I] "You're screwing your players because you enforce realism in the armor dressing to the point, but let your NPC react with unrealistic speed to the same situation." I don't believe he was having his NPC react with unrealistic speed: [I]Originally posted by Fusangite[/I] "Time to fly to the ducal palace while hasted: 2 rounds (it was 120 yards away) *snip* Time to say "The vampires are attacking the now and killing the city guard. Can you help us?": 1 round (I just timed myself saying these words -- it took 4 seconds) Time for the duke to cast Haste and Fly: 1 round Time to fly back to the combat from inside the palace: 3 rounds Given that the city had just held a public meeting called by the duke, a mere 5 hours before about the vampire threat and stationed an extra 80 troops on the earthwork walls around the tower because of what they perceived to be an impending disaster, it was not difficult to explain to the duke either that this event was happening nor the urgency of responding to said event." It seems to me that the Duke, having just discussed the potential vampire attack at the council would likely be awake. After all, vampires pretty much have to attack at night (unless they take some heavy measures to do so in the daytime), so he really could have been anticipating getting word of the attack, thus he was ready to go with little notice. Since the battle wasn't far away, he would have likely heard the explosion too. When the PC came in and gave his warning I would expect it would have been little surprise to the Duke, who then hasted himself up and flew to the battleground. Not only is this within the rules but I don't see how it is a bad encounter. The PCs had reason to believe an attack would take place, and some of them seemed to be uninterested in preparing for that (as far as their armour was concerned). Even after the attack begun, it seems they wouldn't have been in over their heads rushing in without armour as they had prepared many spells that would be perfect for the encounter, and wouldn't have had to face all of the vampires at one time anyway. In fact, their spell selection does seem to indicate that they did anticipate an attack yet they weren't prepped as far as armour. IMO they just assumed they'd be able to don their armour in no time, which was their mistake, not the DM's. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Armour Dilemma: Am I Wrong Here?
Top