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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wayside" data-source="post: 926783" data-attributes="member: 8394">Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ?You get what you give.  So far I have seen two responses from you:Numion: My position/argument is X.Me: I think X is wrong because Y.Numion: No no and no.  Thankyou for missing the point.Good one!  That sure countered me!  And:Numion: Where did you get the idea I was of position A?Me: When you advised this course of action consistent with position A.Numion: But I also advised this other course of action similarly consistent with position A, yet not the course of action you cited, though I still did advise that, too.  Therefore you are obviously confused.  I accept your apology.Another sound statement!Rather than trying to argue anything you're just trying to be right.  Fusangite has taken all kinds of flak just for saying that the majority of people agree with him, which is a comment you prompted by implying that the length of the thread was somehow indicative of the degree to which he had failed as a DM.  I resisted the urge to scream democratic fallacy at you then, but you can only have so many lapses in logic before you stop being taken seriously.  A majority can elect someone to office, but it can't make something objectively right, a fact which should make you happy after having it turned around on you in a way that obviously annoys you to no end (since you're still bringing it up).See reply to Tsyr.  Not that it's an issue, as my group of 12 has no interest in playing in other games.  Friends first, gamers when we don't feel like hitting up some scene or other.Hopefully they won't make that mistake again eh?Yeah, I get you.  If they choose to put on armor let them come fight anyway, so they aren't sitting there bored.  It makes sense.  But they didn't have time to put their armor on, and chose to sit the fight out doing so.  Fusangite isn't a bad DM for forcing them to deal with the consequences of that decision, rather than glancing over them to get things moving again.  There's no graduated scale of DM quality.It's not a position I would ever find myself in (thanks to my players, not my forethought), but if it magically happened my solution would be to bring the fight to the heroes sitting it out.  Any rules for how much it would suck for a bunch of vampires to come attack you while you were in the middle of putting your armor on?</blockquote>

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