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<blockquote data-quote="mmu1" data-source="post: 927494" data-attributes="member: 319">I'm arguing that, since he already went to great lengths to give the PCs a break, let them participate in the encounter, and make it winnable (Which it wouldn't have been, if he actually ran the game the way he claims - he makes things happen, then doesn't fudge anything for the sake of the players - because the players' inattention and lack of preparation would have meant they'd have missed the whole thing if the vampires behaved intelligently throughout), it's inconsistent of him to dig in his heels over another issue affecting player involvement.Let's face it, this wasn't a &quot;strictly by the rules, make no allowances for player mistakes&quot; scenario which it's being repeatedly billed as, it was as arbitrary as most D&amp;D encounters.&nbsp; He fudged just as much as &quot;my&quot; (gee, I've got a posse... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />) crowd does, but it was (mostly) pre-planned rather than reactive fudging...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mmu1, post: 927494, member: 319"] I'm arguing that, since he already went to great lengths to give the PCs a break, let them participate in the encounter, and make it winnable (Which it wouldn't have been, if he actually ran the game the way he claims - he makes things happen, then doesn't fudge anything for the sake of the players - because the players' inattention and lack of preparation would have meant they'd have missed the whole thing if the vampires behaved intelligently throughout), it's inconsistent of him to dig in his heels over another issue affecting player involvement. Let's face it, this [i]wasn't[/i] a "strictly by the rules, make no allowances for player mistakes" scenario which it's being repeatedly billed as, it was as arbitrary as most D&D encounters. He fudged just as much as "my" (gee, I've got a posse... :D) crowd does, but it was (mostly) pre-planned rather than reactive fudging... [/QUOTE]

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