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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jdavis" data-source="post: 927838" data-attributes="member: 8704">Where did he (or anybody) say that any suggestion was bad? Where did he say he was unwilling to budge? He answered every example with a statement of why it would not work in his game, then people got mad. Nobody ever said they were bad suggestions, I myself said I agreed with several of them, but they go against the way he plays the game, he used rounds to measure time, he figured out how long it would take for them to get from place to place and see what they saw in rounds, changing that changes what he was trying to do. I never saw any suggestion that he could do if he kept using rounds as measurments (well besides stretching out the Duke thing but that was well after the fact). It's not that the suggestions were not worthwhile, it's that people are obviously thinking his answers to their suggestions are not worthwhile. He states he doesn't like that idea and then somebody states that he must hate his players then. What is he not allowed to disagree with somebody telling him how his game should be? WHy are people getting mad because he didn't agree with their suggestions? He said he measured out everything in rounds. Everybody is picking apart all sorts of stuff not related to what was the actual question, his so called unnessessary explosion was the catalyst to get them moving, without it then the adventure doesn't exist. Maybe it happened during the fighting (he did state that some of the higher level guards were fighting back). Yes he could of gotten rid of counting things down in rounds, but he has said over and over again he didn't want to do that, he gave all of his reasons for that, why does it keep coming up? It was brought up, he disagreed with it and went on, but it's still being harped on. Why keep bringing it up? I am really not trying to be offensive and I am actually not offended by the discussion ( I was offended by the statement that he hated his players) I find the discussion facinating, but why is there all this personal anamosity towards his game? He answered every suggestion with why he didn't like it, then the suggestions were reworded and he answered the same way, people get mad because he didn't like the suggestions, it goes round and round with no actual new information being added.--------------------------------------------------------------------------from  Elvinis75  Well apparently they all agreed with him in the end and his campaign is running just fine and everything worked out just fine in the end, if his players are ok with it then why does this keep going on? Heck the only problem that happened during the game was one guy got angry (and we have covered that over and over). It seems that he is fine, his game is fine but all of us who were not there are not. I agree with you 100%, I am totally with this, it is exactly my thinking too, but when he says that is the norm in his game and that is how it's always been played then we just have to go with that. The discussion was about what went on in his game not a general discussion of how things should be. They played the same way they always do, there wasn't a change in how they normally played the game, therefore this statement goes to the fact that he is playing the game wrong. I disagree because if that's how they like playing the game then that's how they like playing the game. I got that they were expecting a attack at that tower and had even suggested that might happen before they went to bed, makes me wonder why they were not there at night, but that is another topic. They are not insulting but he said he didn't want to change counting in rounds and gave his reasons. Then people got mad at him, he never said they were bad suggestions, nobody ever said they were bad suggestions, he just said (and backed up) his reasons for not accepting them, then people got mad. So then what's the problem and why are you getting mad at me when you are saying I'm not who you are talking about? Did I single you out? (I didn't mean to if I did). Why is there such anger that he didn't like the suggestions?</blockquote>

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