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<blockquote data-quote="ruleslawyer" data-source="post: 6406958" data-attributes="member: 1757">Well, here we are talking about the sacred cow...I think I must have just had an incredible outlier experience. My players have ALL rolled in front of me, and while I have witnessed substantial stat variation, I have never encountered a player with a key ability score lower than 15 walking into the game. That said, I would have no problem with point buy if the players wanted it. One of my last games (Iron Heroes) got an overwhelming vote for point buy and so that's what happened. Before AND after that, though, my players pretty consistently wanted to roll and they ended up pretty happy with what they got.This most recent game has been probably the least impressive overall roll-wise and I still have:15, 12, 9, 10, 5, 1314, 14, 10, 10, 12, 169, 13, 12, 16, 10, 1115, 15, 13, 16, 15, 12 Now yes, this does mean that some players just have a great advantage over others in terms of character generation, but somehow I have yet to find that this particular part of the process really ends up making a hash of spotlight balance (which is my most important concern in any game). I would LOVE to hear about others' experiences with how this can skew the game.Just to be clear: I am also a believer in lower-bound correction. If your rolls are not so good (i.e. 13- in primary stat combined with less than +3 in stat bonuses overall), I'll let you either reroll or take point buy. This is one area that I feel requires some DM massaging, especially because it's so straightforward for the DM to play a role here. Rolling stats is personal, informal, and emotional, and thus a perfect time for the group to talk out any results.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ruleslawyer, post: 6406958, member: 1757"] Well, here we are talking about the sacred cow... I think I must have just had an incredible outlier experience. My players have ALL rolled in front of me, and while I have witnessed substantial stat variation, I have never encountered a player with a key ability score lower than 15 walking into the game. That said, I would have no problem with point buy if the players wanted it. One of my last games (Iron Heroes) got an overwhelming vote for point buy and so that's what happened. Before AND after that, though, my players pretty consistently wanted to roll and they ended up pretty happy with what they got. This most recent game has been probably the least impressive overall roll-wise and I still have: 15, 12, 9, 10, 5, 13 14, 14, 10, 10, 12, 16 9, 13, 12, 16, 10, 11 15, 15, 13, 16, 15, 12 Now yes, this does mean that some players just have a great advantage over others in terms of character generation, but somehow I have yet to find that this particular part of the process really ends up making a hash of spotlight balance (which is my most important concern in any game). I would LOVE to hear about others' experiences with how this can skew the game. Just to be clear: I am also a believer in lower-bound correction. If your rolls are not so good (i.e. 13- in primary stat combined with less than +3 in stat bonuses overall), I'll let you either reroll or take point buy. This is one area that I feel requires some DM massaging, especially because it's so straightforward for the DM to play a role here. Rolling stats is personal, informal, and emotional, and thus a perfect time for the group to talk out any results. [/QUOTE]

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