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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 6407154" data-attributes="member: 15700">Wow, there are so many things wrong with this post; where to start.How about with the hyperbole.&nbsp; I very much doubt you roll stats with all negative modifiers.&nbsp; Forgive me if I lean towards the statistical probability rather than something that is pretty much impossible to occur (repeatedly and consistently rolling all stats with penalties).&nbsp; Your last sentence is also nothing but exaggerated hyperbole as well.&nbsp; One big giant false equivalency.&nbsp; Next, let's move on to how your issues are a people problem, and not a rules or random stat rolling problem.&nbsp; If you have players that make fun of you for rolling a low stat?&nbsp; Those are dick players.&nbsp; Stop playing with them.&nbsp; That is not a rules issue at all, but a maturity issue with those you choose to associate with.Moving on to a third issue, the DM having a style of play that you don't like doesn't make them a dick.&nbsp; Lots of people do prefer that style.&nbsp; Just because you don't doesn't make you better than them and them a prick.&nbsp; If you don't like their style, either DM a game yourself, or find another game.&nbsp; Again, this is not a rules problem, but a person problem.To address another issue, having a PC with a low stat (or even a couple) isn't objectively &quot;forced humiliation&quot;.&nbsp; Hey Robbie Wheeling, it's just a game.&nbsp; And yes, many people can and do have fun role-playing AND roll-playing their PCs even if they have a low stat or two.&nbsp; Again, this is a &quot;you&quot; problem and not a rules problem.And finally, and I've mentioned this no less than two times already, that's not what punishment means.&nbsp; You are not being punished just because you didn't get your way.&nbsp; Seriously folks, look up what the word means before continuing to use it.&nbsp; And if you (general you) find yourself make the &quot;Billy has a bigger piece of cake than me, not fair!' argument, then you probably want to reevaluate...a lot of things.&nbsp; That's how kids act.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 6407154, member: 15700"] Wow, there are so many things wrong with this post; where to start. How about with the hyperbole. I very much doubt you roll stats with all negative modifiers. Forgive me if I lean towards the statistical probability rather than something that is pretty much impossible to occur (repeatedly and consistently rolling all stats with penalties). Your last sentence is also nothing but exaggerated hyperbole as well. One big giant false equivalency. Next, let's move on to how your issues are a people problem, and not a rules or random stat rolling problem. If you have players that make fun of you for rolling a low stat? Those are dick players. Stop playing with them. That is not a rules issue at all, but a maturity issue with those you choose to associate with. Moving on to a third issue, the DM having a style of play that you don't like doesn't make them a dick. Lots of people do prefer that style. Just because you don't doesn't make you better than them and them a prick. If you don't like their style, either DM a game yourself, or find another game. Again, this is not a rules problem, but a person problem. To address another issue, having a PC with a low stat (or even a couple) isn't objectively "forced humiliation". Hey Robbie Wheeling, it's just a game. And yes, many people can and do have fun role-playing AND roll-playing their PCs even if they have a low stat or two. Again, this is a "you" problem and not a rules problem. And finally, and I've mentioned this no less than two times already, that's not what punishment means. You are not being punished just because you didn't get your way. Seriously folks, look up what the word means before continuing to use it. And if you (general you) find yourself make the "Billy has a bigger piece of cake than me, not fair!' argument, then you probably want to reevaluate...a lot of things. That's how kids act. [/QUOTE]

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