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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 6623937" data-attributes="member: 67338">ok lets go with my 1st 4e game... I had the players roll (we at that point almost never used arrays or point buy) and I had a eladrin swordmage with a 16 str 15 con 20 dex 20 int 14 wis 15 cha and a elf ranger with 14 str 14 con 19 dex 11 int 17 wis 11 cha a shadarkia rogue with 12 str 14Con 17 dex 11 int 12 wis 8 cha and a genesi warlord with a 15 str 13 con 10 dex 12 int 9 wis 13 cha I can say without any fear of being wrong... THAT WAS UNFAIR... and it was unfun to the warlord, but belive it or not the loudest complaints came fromt he ranger who thought the swordmage out did him...now to go back to my 2 theretical eldritch knights, one with an 18 str and 16 int and the other with 14s... lets make up some numbersplayer a Human Eldritch knight fighter&nbsp; 14 str 11 dex 14 con 14 int 13 wis 13 cha&nbsp;player b half elf eldritch knight fighter 18 str 13 dex 15 con 16 int 11 wis 13 chanow is it ok to complain?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 6623937, member: 67338"] ok lets go with my 1st 4e game... I had the players roll (we at that point almost never used arrays or point buy) and I had a eladrin swordmage with a 16 str 15 con 20 dex 20 int 14 wis 15 cha and a elf ranger with 14 str 14 con 19 dex 11 int 17 wis 11 cha a shadarkia rogue with 12 str 14Con 17 dex 11 int 12 wis 8 cha and a genesi warlord with a 15 str 13 con 10 dex 12 int 9 wis 13 cha I can say without any fear of being wrong... THAT WAS UNFAIR... and it was unfun to the warlord, but belive it or not the loudest complaints came fromt he ranger who thought the swordmage out did him... now to go back to my 2 theretical eldritch knights, one with an 18 str and 16 int and the other with 14s... lets make up some numbers player a Human Eldritch knight fighter 14 str 11 dex 14 con 14 int 13 wis 13 cha player b half elf eldritch knight fighter 18 str 13 dex 15 con 16 int 11 wis 13 cha now is it ok to complain? [/QUOTE]

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