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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 6623990" data-attributes="member: 67338">some of them I see outside of my 2 nights gaming (plus cons) but most I do not, I don't findmyself having time to 'do stuff' as often as I did 20 years ago, I envey you that you have enough free time to do other things as well...&nbsp;no I'm not I'm just not letting you use loaded words to describe someone raiseing an objection...&nbsp;no body in this thread argued &quot;I like rolling until X,&quot; we all argued &quot;This is why we don't like it&quot; so I can't imagine what makes you think your example of 6 guys sitting down all wanting to roll then 1 person after rolls saying &quot;No I don't want to roll&quot; matters when that is not what anyone said.&nbsp;so what are you argueing against when you tell people not to complain exactly? &nbsp;very few people complain 'because the dice went badly once' infact I bet you can't find that example except by me saying that is why I don't like rolling is when Pro roll for stat guys want rerolls...how do you know the problem if no one complains?&nbsp;um... that is complaining... raiseing the issue is pretty close to the definition of the word...It is no more or less 'just gaming' then going to the bar with friends, or playing cards, or playing basket ball... if you and 7 friend meet every Tuesday to play D&amp;D and me and my 7 friends meet every Tuesday to play poker, and another person and there 7 friends meet every Tuesday to go to Karokie and drink... it is still 8 friends hanging out... if one of those friends says &quot;Hey we normally do X but I want to do it Y way because I;m not having fun&quot; in any of the groups and one persons ansewer is &quot;Its only X just leave then&quot; I'm betteing in all 3 groups that there would be hard feelings...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 6623990, member: 67338"] some of them I see outside of my 2 nights gaming (plus cons) but most I do not, I don't findmyself having time to 'do stuff' as often as I did 20 years ago, I envey you that you have enough free time to do other things as well... no I'm not I'm just not letting you use loaded words to describe someone raiseing an objection... no body in this thread argued "I like rolling until X," we all argued "This is why we don't like it" so I can't imagine what makes you think your example of 6 guys sitting down all wanting to roll then 1 person after rolls saying "No I don't want to roll" matters when that is not what anyone said. so what are you argueing against when you tell people not to complain exactly? very few people complain 'because the dice went badly once' infact I bet you can't find that example except by me saying that is why I don't like rolling is when Pro roll for stat guys want rerolls... how do you know the problem if no one complains? um... that is complaining... raiseing the issue is pretty close to the definition of the word... It is no more or less 'just gaming' then going to the bar with friends, or playing cards, or playing basket ball... if you and 7 friend meet every Tuesday to play D&D and me and my 7 friends meet every Tuesday to play poker, and another person and there 7 friends meet every Tuesday to go to Karokie and drink... it is still 8 friends hanging out... if one of those friends says "Hey we normally do X but I want to do it Y way because I;m not having fun" in any of the groups and one persons ansewer is "Its only X just leave then" I'm betteing in all 3 groups that there would be hard feelings... [/QUOTE]

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