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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 6624193" data-attributes="member: 67338"><p>no, your anology fails because at no point does how much money you have and how much money I have matter, unless I can't pay my bills... then I can complain "I can't pay my bills"</p><p></p><p>You all act like this is some kind of conspiracy to complain about something... NOBODY COMPLAINS WHEN THEY ARE HAVING FUN!!!</p><p></p><p>to fix your analogy, it isn't "Everyone can have 3 or try for more or less" it's if we are fair everyone gets 3, but we can instead be 'first come first serve' with some people might take more. It is perfectly in my right to say "Hey, I don't like getting stuck with less pizza because of how you choose to do it." now at my house I can be fair, and at your house you can choose to be unfair, but you can't tell me I can't voice that I don't like that you do it unfair when I am at your house.... (I can say I will always DM point buy, and my roommate can say he will always make it random... both of us have every right to complain we would prefer the other way.)</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>So just to make sure we are on the same page... if we all pay 5$ to see a movie planning to see the avengers, but after we pay there is only 1 seat for avengers and one for showgirls 2, witch is a worse plot but rated pg(I can't imagine a worse movie) and we race for the seat... the person who has to watch the crumby movie can't complain because they COULD have won? I don't understand. </p><p></p><p>Using this logic is like saying 1 in 10 people get hit by cars, but if you got hit by a car you can't complain because you had the same 1 in 10 chance as everyone else...</p><p></p><p>the fact that you got unlucky is WHAT you complain about....</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>and</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't see anything about opportunity... I see stuff about advantages...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>wait... so again you claim that having the same opportunity is fair....</p><p></p><p>so if a game said "Roll 1d100, if you roll above 99 you get to add 10 to all your stats and gain immunity to non magical weapon attacks and resistance to magical weapon attacks" then all 7 players rolled, and 1 got it and 6 didn't... that would be fair to play the next year to year and a half based on one roll? The entire rule is unfair regardless of opportunity, because it either A) doesn't matter (aka no one gets it) or B) someone gets it and makes the game very much lopsided... </p><p></p><p>you have a very odd sense of fair...</p><p></p><p>heck in your mind it must be fair that 1 in X people get assaulted, and the people who do shouldn't complain that they were assaulted because they had the same opportunity to not be assaulted...<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /> </p><p></p><p>(I tried to google real 1 in X assaults but kept getting sexual assaults and didn't want to go there)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 6624193, member: 67338"] no, your anology fails because at no point does how much money you have and how much money I have matter, unless I can't pay my bills... then I can complain "I can't pay my bills" You all act like this is some kind of conspiracy to complain about something... NOBODY COMPLAINS WHEN THEY ARE HAVING FUN!!! to fix your analogy, it isn't "Everyone can have 3 or try for more or less" it's if we are fair everyone gets 3, but we can instead be 'first come first serve' with some people might take more. It is perfectly in my right to say "Hey, I don't like getting stuck with less pizza because of how you choose to do it." now at my house I can be fair, and at your house you can choose to be unfair, but you can't tell me I can't voice that I don't like that you do it unfair when I am at your house.... (I can say I will always DM point buy, and my roommate can say he will always make it random... both of us have every right to complain we would prefer the other way.) So just to make sure we are on the same page... if we all pay 5$ to see a movie planning to see the avengers, but after we pay there is only 1 seat for avengers and one for showgirls 2, witch is a worse plot but rated pg(I can't imagine a worse movie) and we race for the seat... the person who has to watch the crumby movie can't complain because they COULD have won? I don't understand. Using this logic is like saying 1 in 10 people get hit by cars, but if you got hit by a car you can't complain because you had the same 1 in 10 chance as everyone else... the fact that you got unlucky is WHAT you complain about.... and I don't see anything about opportunity... I see stuff about advantages... wait... so again you claim that having the same opportunity is fair.... so if a game said "Roll 1d100, if you roll above 99 you get to add 10 to all your stats and gain immunity to non magical weapon attacks and resistance to magical weapon attacks" then all 7 players rolled, and 1 got it and 6 didn't... that would be fair to play the next year to year and a half based on one roll? The entire rule is unfair regardless of opportunity, because it either A) doesn't matter (aka no one gets it) or B) someone gets it and makes the game very much lopsided... you have a very odd sense of fair... heck in your mind it must be fair that 1 in X people get assaulted, and the people who do shouldn't complain that they were assaulted because they had the same opportunity to not be assaulted...:erm::erm::erm::erm::erm: (I tried to google real 1 in X assaults but kept getting sexual assaults and didn't want to go there) [/QUOTE]
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