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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 6625153" data-attributes="member: 15700">Everyone at the table is given the same choices and opportunity.&nbsp; Ergo: fairness.&nbsp; To get upset because one PC has an extra +1 bonus?&nbsp; That's pretty sour grapes.&nbsp; Or jealousy.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Because it doesn't impact or take away from your PC at all.Great news!&nbsp; That doesn't happen by and large now.&nbsp; Not with random gen or any other method you choose.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Random gen will only give a PC a +1 or maybe a +2 bonus over a non random gen (along with probably other stats that are worse than the non-random gen PC).&nbsp; And since even with array right now, some PCs have a +1 or +2 bonus over other PCs depending on how they set up their stats.&nbsp; So great news!&nbsp; No matter what variation you use, you won't be playing a game where one character is significantly more powerful than the others unless they cheated or exploited loopholes.&nbsp; And that's a player issue, not a rules issue.&nbsp; The odds of a player rolling several 18s and 17s is so rare that it just doesn't happen with any significant occurrence to even be considered in the discussion.&nbsp; You might as well say you don't want play a PC in metal armor because they have a higher chance of getting struck by lightning over a clothed PC.Speaking of not wanting to play in games, I know I wouldn't want to play in a game where the DM makes sure every PC has the same stats, advances exactly the same, and is given items at exactly the same rate.&nbsp; After all, if you have everyone equal and you find one +1 weapon, who gets it?&nbsp; Oh noes!&nbsp; Now you've got one PC more powerful than the others!&nbsp; Whatever shall we do!That's sarcasm by the way.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 6625153, member: 15700"] Everyone at the table is given the same choices and opportunity. Ergo: fairness. To get upset because one PC has an extra +1 bonus? That's pretty sour grapes. Or jealousy. Why? Because it doesn't impact or take away from your PC at all. Great news! That doesn't happen by and large now. Not with random gen or any other method you choose. Why? Random gen will only give a PC a +1 or maybe a +2 bonus over a non random gen (along with probably other stats that are worse than the non-random gen PC). And since even with array [i]right now[/i], some PCs have a +1 or +2 bonus over other PCs depending on how they set up their stats. So great news! No matter what variation you use, you won't be playing a game where one character is significantly more powerful than the others unless they cheated or exploited loopholes. And that's a player issue, not a rules issue. The odds of a player rolling several 18s and 17s is so rare that it just doesn't happen with any significant occurrence to even be considered in the discussion. You might as well say you don't want play a PC in metal armor because they have a higher chance of getting struck by lightning over a clothed PC. Speaking of not wanting to play in games, I know I wouldn't want to play in a game where the DM makes sure every PC has the same stats, advances exactly the same, and is given items at exactly the same rate. After all, if you have everyone equal and you find one +1 weapon, who gets it? Oh noes! Now you've got one PC more powerful than the others! Whatever shall we do! That's sarcasm by the way. [/QUOTE]

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