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<blockquote data-quote="spinozajack" data-source="post: 6628149" data-attributes="member: 6794198">I allow point buy or rolling, so I'm not sure if you're referring to what I wrote, but don't mischaracterize it. I said there exists such a thing as immature D&amp;D players, who throw tantrums and throw their dice when they roll poorly, which is ironic considering they are playing a game with dice rolling as a certain feature and agent of resolution, and seem fundamentally ill-equipped either intellectually or emotionally to handle it. Those are the types of problem players that I eject from my table, and not you, nor anyone else can tell me or will convince me that I shouldn't do that. I'm not here to babysit crybabies, I'm in my late 30s and don't tolerate childish behavior from anyone I choose to spend time with, during D&amp;D or not.And yes, I get invited to play with many gamers all the time, and invite others to play in my games. Ill behavior is something I distance myself from. And yes, in my lengthy experience, I've learned to spot such problem players early based on numerous cues, one of which is the idea that the game must be &quot;fair&quot; in outcome when dice are rolled. That is total nonsense and that kind of thinking, is not only irrational, but fundamentally goes against the entire purpose of what D&amp;D means. If someone tells me they hate dice rolling, I say, well go play another game. Seriously, there are plenty of diceless games out there that they would be happier with. If I get an inkling that someone who wants to play thinks it's unfair for someone else in the group has a +1 more than they do because they chose to roll their stats and rolled well or poorly, that is yes, a clear sign that there are going to be problems when rulings don't go their way, or something happens in the plot they consider unfair. That's too bad. Those are classic problem players as outlined in the DMG in EVERY edition, from the 1st onward.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="spinozajack, post: 6628149, member: 6794198"] I allow point buy or rolling, so I'm not sure if you're referring to what I wrote, but don't mischaracterize it. I said there exists such a thing as immature D&D players, who throw tantrums and throw their dice when they roll poorly, which is ironic considering they are playing a game with dice rolling as a certain feature and agent of resolution, and seem fundamentally ill-equipped either intellectually or emotionally to handle it. Those are the types of problem players that I eject from my table, and not you, nor anyone else can tell me or will convince me that I shouldn't do that. I'm not here to babysit crybabies, I'm in my late 30s and don't tolerate childish behavior from anyone I choose to spend time with, during D&D or not. And yes, I get invited to play with many gamers all the time, and invite others to play in my games. Ill behavior is something I distance myself from. And yes, in my lengthy experience, I've learned to spot such problem players early based on numerous cues, one of which is the idea that the game must be "fair" in outcome when dice are rolled. That is total nonsense and that kind of thinking, is not only irrational, but fundamentally goes against the entire purpose of what D&D means. If someone tells me they hate dice rolling, I say, well go play another game. Seriously, there are plenty of diceless games out there that they would be happier with. If I get an inkling that someone who wants to play thinks it's unfair for someone else in the group has a +1 more than they do because they chose to roll their stats and rolled well or poorly, that is yes, a clear sign that there are going to be problems when rulings don't go their way, or something happens in the plot they consider unfair. That's too bad. Those are classic problem players as outlined in the DMG in EVERY edition, from the 1st onward. [/QUOTE]

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