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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 6629249" data-attributes="member: 463"><p>The player rolls for each stat starting STR, INT WIS, CON DEX CHA. Say their first roll is an 8, but they want to be a Fighter. Instead of putting it in STR they can put it in INT. But once assigned each number is locked in and cannot be moved later.</p><p></p><p>The result is that the character still grows organically through the rolls, but with a lot more flexibility than roll-in-order. The last stat rolled is always purely random. </p><p></p><p>In practice most players do most rolls purely random, but players who want to play Fighter types wait to get a 13+ to assign to STR.</p><p></p><p>Here is the current PC group. I allowed the Claudia player a full reroll as her first set of stats were </p><p>so abysmal. Bramble the Halfling is slightly underpowered due to no STR bonus, but I decided to let </p><p>players add +1 to a stat every 4 levels as in 4e so in one level he can get STR 13 which will give him +1 to hit & damage.</p><p></p><p>Alexandra Vorloi, Armiger of House Vorloi, Lawful</p><p>Fighter-3 AC 18 (plate & shield) speed 4 (20')</p><p>Hit Points 18</p><p>+1 ashen-shaft Trident ATT +2 dam 1d6+2 (melee), 1d6+1 (thrown), 2d6+2 set. </p><p>Sword ATT +1 dam 1d8+1 </p><p>Thrown Spear ATT +1 dam 1d6 </p><p>Light Lance (spear) mounted charge or set ATT +1 dam 2d6+1</p><p>STR 15 (+1) INT 12 (+0) WIS 12 (+0) DEX 14 (+1) CON 16 (+2) CHA 13 (+1)</p><p>Light warhorse (courser) </p><p>XP: 6630/8000</p><p>1/11/19: Alexander Thadeus of the Church of Karameikos (Cleric-3), newly assigned to the diocese of Rugalov as Cleric of Rugalov Town, pledged allegiance to Alexandra in the battle against Chaos. He seems smitten with her.</p><p></p><p>Ace Plz (Ruyven Kishida) of the Calarii Elves, Lawful</p><p>Elf-2 AC 14 (leather) Speed 6 (30')</p><p>Hit Points 12</p><p>2-handed Sword ATT +1 dam 1d10+1, Longbow ATT +2 dam 1d6</p><p>STR 13 (+1) INT 11 (+0) WIS 15 (+1) DEX 16 (+2) CON 13 (+1) CHA 16 (+2)</p><p>Spell Book: Read Magic Charm Person Magic Missile Sleep Light</p><p>Spells/Day: 2 1st</p><p>Light warhorse (courser) </p><p>XP: 6480/8000</p><p>26/10/1019: Princess Hope Karameikos seems to like Ace - they share an interest in dragons... </p><p></p><p>Yakov Dmitrov, Donkey-Headed Black Sheep of House Dmitrov, Neutral</p><p>Magic-User 3 AC 11 (unarmoured - Claudia has the +2 ruby ring) Speed 8 (40')</p><p>Hit Points 8</p><p>STR 8 (-1) INT 11 (+0) WIS 16 (+2) DEX 13 (+1) CON 10 (+0) CHA 15 (+1)</p><p>Spell Book: Read Magic Charm Person Magic Missile Sleep Light</p><p>Spells/day: 2 1st, 1 2nd</p><p>wand of illusion c.7, 3 unknown potions.</p><p>Golden Staff ATT -1 dam 1d4-1. Hunting Bow ATT +1 dam 1d4</p><p>Light warhorse (courser) </p><p>XP: 6480/10000</p><p>28/10/19: The old Cleric Aleeva Vloitescu really went off Yakov when he tried to cast 'charm' on her. </p><p></p><p>Rian, Cleric of the Church of Traldar</p><p>Cleric-3, Neutral </p><p>AC 14 (leather & shield)</p><p>Hit Points 13</p><p>ST 14 (+1) IN 9 (+0) WI 11 (+0) DE 14 (+1) CO 13 (+1) CH 15 (+1)</p><p>Leather (speed 30'), Shield</p><p>Sling ATT +1 dam 1d4</p><p>Spear ATT +1 dam 1d6+1</p><p>XP 5825/6000</p><p>Junior Cleric, in service to Lord Vlad Lutescu of Rugalov Town, sent by him to Rugalov Keep.</p><p></p><p>PCs Absent - at Rugalov Keep?</p><p></p><p>Claudia Morrigan, Neutral</p><p>Thief-4 AC 17 (leather, +2 ruby ring of protection) Speed 6 (30')</p><p>Hit points 10+d4 - NOT ROLLED YET</p><p>ST 13 (+1) IN 10 (+0) WI 7 (-1) DE 18 (+3) CO 11 (+0) CH 14 (+1)</p><p>+1 attribute bonus</p><p>E: Thieves' Tools, Leather armour, +2 ring of protection</p><p>2-handed sword ATT +1 dam 1d10+1</p><p>Short bow ATT +3 dam 1d6</p><p>Light warhorse (courser) </p><p>XP 5505/10000</p><p></p><p>Bramble Hairy-Heals of the Five Shires, Lawful</p><p>Halfling-3 AC 15 (chainmail & shield) speed 4 (20')</p><p>Hit Points 9+d6+1 - NOT ROLLED YET</p><p>+1 Shortsword +2 vs Elves & Fairies, 'the sword of Samwise' ATT +1 dam 1d6+1 </p><p>Sling +1 dam 1d4</p><p>STR 12 (+0) INT 14 (+1) WIS 13 (+1) DEX 11 (+0/+1 init & missile) CON 13 (+1) CHA 12 (+0)</p><p>Donkey</p><p>XP: 5655/8000</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 6629249, member: 463"] The player rolls for each stat starting STR, INT WIS, CON DEX CHA. Say their first roll is an 8, but they want to be a Fighter. Instead of putting it in STR they can put it in INT. But once assigned each number is locked in and cannot be moved later. The result is that the character still grows organically through the rolls, but with a lot more flexibility than roll-in-order. The last stat rolled is always purely random. In practice most players do most rolls purely random, but players who want to play Fighter types wait to get a 13+ to assign to STR. Here is the current PC group. I allowed the Claudia player a full reroll as her first set of stats were so abysmal. Bramble the Halfling is slightly underpowered due to no STR bonus, but I decided to let players add +1 to a stat every 4 levels as in 4e so in one level he can get STR 13 which will give him +1 to hit & damage. Alexandra Vorloi, Armiger of House Vorloi, Lawful Fighter-3 AC 18 (plate & shield) speed 4 (20') Hit Points 18 +1 ashen-shaft Trident ATT +2 dam 1d6+2 (melee), 1d6+1 (thrown), 2d6+2 set. Sword ATT +1 dam 1d8+1 Thrown Spear ATT +1 dam 1d6 Light Lance (spear) mounted charge or set ATT +1 dam 2d6+1 STR 15 (+1) INT 12 (+0) WIS 12 (+0) DEX 14 (+1) CON 16 (+2) CHA 13 (+1) Light warhorse (courser) XP: 6630/8000 1/11/19: Alexander Thadeus of the Church of Karameikos (Cleric-3), newly assigned to the diocese of Rugalov as Cleric of Rugalov Town, pledged allegiance to Alexandra in the battle against Chaos. He seems smitten with her. Ace Plz (Ruyven Kishida) of the Calarii Elves, Lawful Elf-2 AC 14 (leather) Speed 6 (30') Hit Points 12 2-handed Sword ATT +1 dam 1d10+1, Longbow ATT +2 dam 1d6 STR 13 (+1) INT 11 (+0) WIS 15 (+1) DEX 16 (+2) CON 13 (+1) CHA 16 (+2) Spell Book: Read Magic Charm Person Magic Missile Sleep Light Spells/Day: 2 1st Light warhorse (courser) XP: 6480/8000 26/10/1019: Princess Hope Karameikos seems to like Ace - they share an interest in dragons... Yakov Dmitrov, Donkey-Headed Black Sheep of House Dmitrov, Neutral Magic-User 3 AC 11 (unarmoured - Claudia has the +2 ruby ring) Speed 8 (40') Hit Points 8 STR 8 (-1) INT 11 (+0) WIS 16 (+2) DEX 13 (+1) CON 10 (+0) CHA 15 (+1) Spell Book: Read Magic Charm Person Magic Missile Sleep Light Spells/day: 2 1st, 1 2nd wand of illusion c.7, 3 unknown potions. Golden Staff ATT -1 dam 1d4-1. Hunting Bow ATT +1 dam 1d4 Light warhorse (courser) XP: 6480/10000 28/10/19: The old Cleric Aleeva Vloitescu really went off Yakov when he tried to cast 'charm' on her. Rian, Cleric of the Church of Traldar Cleric-3, Neutral AC 14 (leather & shield) Hit Points 13 ST 14 (+1) IN 9 (+0) WI 11 (+0) DE 14 (+1) CO 13 (+1) CH 15 (+1) Leather (speed 30'), Shield Sling ATT +1 dam 1d4 Spear ATT +1 dam 1d6+1 XP 5825/6000 Junior Cleric, in service to Lord Vlad Lutescu of Rugalov Town, sent by him to Rugalov Keep. PCs Absent - at Rugalov Keep? Claudia Morrigan, Neutral Thief-4 AC 17 (leather, +2 ruby ring of protection) Speed 6 (30') Hit points 10+d4 - NOT ROLLED YET ST 13 (+1) IN 10 (+0) WI 7 (-1) DE 18 (+3) CO 11 (+0) CH 14 (+1) +1 attribute bonus E: Thieves' Tools, Leather armour, +2 ring of protection 2-handed sword ATT +1 dam 1d10+1 Short bow ATT +3 dam 1d6 Light warhorse (courser) XP 5505/10000 Bramble Hairy-Heals of the Five Shires, Lawful Halfling-3 AC 15 (chainmail & shield) speed 4 (20') Hit Points 9+d6+1 - NOT ROLLED YET +1 Shortsword +2 vs Elves & Fairies, 'the sword of Samwise' ATT +1 dam 1d6+1 Sling +1 dam 1d4 STR 12 (+0) INT 14 (+1) WIS 13 (+1) DEX 11 (+0/+1 init & missile) CON 13 (+1) CHA 12 (+0) Donkey XP: 5655/8000 [/QUOTE]
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