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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8817858" data-attributes="member: 22779">Heh, I see we're back to dueling anecdotes and cherry picking.&nbsp; Basic adventures instead of the ones that are somewhat more famous. So, let's see how the other half lives shall we?&nbsp; Here's the pregens from Against the Giants:[ATTACH=full]265678[/ATTACH]9 characters, Stats of 82, 85, 89 (!), 82, 91 (!), 93, 77, 95, and finally a whopping 96.Ok, so, maybe that's an outlier.&nbsp; Let's try the Slavelords.&nbsp; Another classic:[ATTACH=full]265687[/ATTACH]So that's 81, 71, 91, 81, 68, 78, 80, 83, 82Well, that's two for two now.&nbsp; Howzabout another module with pregens - Dragonlance?&nbsp; Oh yeah, pretty much the same as above.&nbsp; Hrm, I wonder why I say that die rolled parties would average somewhere close to 80?&nbsp; 18 pregens and exactly one that was lower than 72.&nbsp; And even the Keep on the Borderlands pregens have more than a few that are well north of 72.&nbsp; I mean, check out fighter #3 above.&nbsp; Someone else can do the math because I'm pretty sure that those characters were NOT generated using Basic rules - 3d6 in order?&nbsp; Not bloody likely.&nbsp; 16 charactersX6 rolls each and there is only one 5 no fours or threes, and while only one 18, there's a suspicious number of seventeens and sixteens there.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8817858, member: 22779"] Heh, I see we're back to dueling anecdotes and cherry picking. Basic adventures instead of the ones that are somewhat more famous. So, let's see how the other half lives shall we? Here's the pregens from Against the Giants: [ATTACH type="full"]265678[/ATTACH] 9 characters, Stats of 82, 85, 89 (!), 82, 91 (!), 93, 77, 95, and finally a whopping 96. Ok, so, maybe that's an outlier. Let's try the Slavelords. Another classic: [ATTACH type="full"]265687[/ATTACH] So that's 81, 71, 91, 81, 68, 78, 80, 83, 82 Well, that's two for two now. Howzabout another module with pregens - Dragonlance? Oh yeah, pretty much the same as above. Hrm, I wonder why I say that die rolled parties would average somewhere close to 80? 18 pregens and exactly one that was lower than 72. And even the Keep on the Borderlands pregens have more than a few that are well north of 72. I mean, check out fighter #3 above. Someone else can do the math because I'm pretty sure that those characters were NOT generated using Basic rules - 3d6 in order? Not bloody likely. 16 charactersX6 rolls each and there is only one 5 no fours or threes, and while only one 18, there's a suspicious number of seventeens and sixteens there. [/QUOTE]

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