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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Narfellus" data-source="post: 2142341" data-attributes="member: 11040">I have heard of Blue Rose and read some posts about it. I really like Green Ronin and picked up the Psychic's Handbook a while back. That was a fantastic book, and i mention it because i think it and BR also use similar mechanics in their magic. They are skill based, and do subdual damage when used. Incidentally, this is similar to the system i set up in d20 Ars, although mine is heavilly rooted in the Ars Magica spell descriptions. I could be wrong, but i think there is a new book coming out over the summer (maybe from GR) that does a further magic model using the skill based system.And then there's Iron Lore from Malahavoc that really changes some rules around.</blockquote>