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<blockquote data-quote="Larry Fitz" data-source="post: 841604" data-attributes="member: 3949"><p>I liked the article too, I also liked that this thread gave us that insight into the creation of the BoVD. However I must nitpick.</p><p></p><p>I do not need Ingmar Bergman's talent to participate in a well done cinematic style campaign, but it would help. More so than Jackie Chan's choreography ability. However the claim that as drama the RPG's are inadequate is hardly fair. most of the elements of drama (lighting, camera angle, timing, sets) Are someone else's idea of what is dramatic. In an RPG each player's imagination fills in the blanks and does much better on the special effects. First in your imagination all five senses are engaged, you get an idea of what a "Dwarven Slammer" <em>tastes</em> like. You can smell the apple blossoms as you ride forth from the keep of your liege lord. But most importantly, everything is personalized to your senses of drama. You don't, in your mind's eye, see Ingmar Bergman's concept of what a spirit of death would look like, you see your own; which for you is much more frightening because it's what you think death would look like. You don't see Peter Jackson's idea of what a Balrog pulling Gandalf to his death would look like, you see what it would look like to you to see a flaming demon pulling your buddy Bob to his doom; which as much as I admire Mr. Jackson's work, is much better. </p><p></p><p>I know all this because I've seen it myself, in campaigns I played in and campaigns I've run. I've seen players who were not personally involved in the action come to tears when NPC's died valiantly staving off attackers from PC's, and I've seen players have vehement arguments about the quickest route from one place in a city they were playing in to another place in that city, when neither one had ever seen the city map (They were Gnomes and when I checked my own map later I discovered that one of them was right, by a single city block), I've seen PC's sacrifice themselves to save other PC's and NPC's. I've heard players joke about their relationships IG being more interesting than their relationships OOG. And! I've played Feng Shui with strangers under Doc Midnight, and Jackie Chan would be lucky to be in such a good movie.... </p><p></p><p>All that being ranted, one thing Monte said pricked up my curiosity (my curiosity is not particularly attractive when pricked up, but hey, whose is?). Even a D20 writer of your stature has no residual deal for writing books? You do straight work for hire? I'm assuming your price per word is abover the industry norm and I don't think it would be polite to ask, but could you possibly start another thread (or if I start one will you answer in it?) discussing what the business arrangements for someone like you are (sans actual pricing if you're shy about that sort of thing). I think it would be interesting for people here to see more of the behind the scenes process.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Larry Fitz, post: 841604, member: 3949"] I liked the article too, I also liked that this thread gave us that insight into the creation of the BoVD. However I must nitpick. I do not need Ingmar Bergman's talent to participate in a well done cinematic style campaign, but it would help. More so than Jackie Chan's choreography ability. However the claim that as drama the RPG's are inadequate is hardly fair. most of the elements of drama (lighting, camera angle, timing, sets) Are someone else's idea of what is dramatic. In an RPG each player's imagination fills in the blanks and does much better on the special effects. First in your imagination all five senses are engaged, you get an idea of what a "Dwarven Slammer" [I]tastes[/I] like. You can smell the apple blossoms as you ride forth from the keep of your liege lord. But most importantly, everything is personalized to your senses of drama. You don't, in your mind's eye, see Ingmar Bergman's concept of what a spirit of death would look like, you see your own; which for you is much more frightening because it's what you think death would look like. You don't see Peter Jackson's idea of what a Balrog pulling Gandalf to his death would look like, you see what it would look like to you to see a flaming demon pulling your buddy Bob to his doom; which as much as I admire Mr. Jackson's work, is much better. I know all this because I've seen it myself, in campaigns I played in and campaigns I've run. I've seen players who were not personally involved in the action come to tears when NPC's died valiantly staving off attackers from PC's, and I've seen players have vehement arguments about the quickest route from one place in a city they were playing in to another place in that city, when neither one had ever seen the city map (They were Gnomes and when I checked my own map later I discovered that one of them was right, by a single city block), I've seen PC's sacrifice themselves to save other PC's and NPC's. I've heard players joke about their relationships IG being more interesting than their relationships OOG. And! I've played Feng Shui with strangers under Doc Midnight, and Jackie Chan would be lucky to be in such a good movie.... All that being ranted, one thing Monte said pricked up my curiosity (my curiosity is not particularly attractive when pricked up, but hey, whose is?). Even a D20 writer of your stature has no residual deal for writing books? You do straight work for hire? I'm assuming your price per word is abover the industry norm and I don't think it would be polite to ask, but could you possibly start another thread (or if I start one will you answer in it?) discussing what the business arrangements for someone like you are (sans actual pricing if you're shy about that sort of thing). I think it would be interesting for people here to see more of the behind the scenes process. [/QUOTE]
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