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<blockquote data-quote="Deinos" data-source="post: 5205796" data-attributes="member: 74998">Er... well, I wouldn't really argue otherwise. My main experience with epic level gaming has been level 30-50, pre-IH stuff, to be honest. I haven't much analyzed anything past level 60-70.If you're going to be a high level magic user, not focused on shapeshifting into a better melee combatant, like the druid, why not look at the Cosmic Descryer PrC? Every 4 levels, you get +4 HD to most summons, so at level 101 or so, you're summoning 98 or so HD creatures. With a pinch of metamagic, each individual monster summoning spell, could itself summon around 4-8, 90-95 HD, monsters. If you're a double portfolio character, you can easily be summoning 180 HD creatures by that time, and (again I'm not too well versed as to why Time Stop sucks at level 100) you can conceivably be summoning HORDES of level 180 creatures per round.Melee characters have always been the ones to dish out the pain in hand to hand, but magic characters are the ones who, so many times per day, just spew out billions of minions that power attack everything into oblivion.Also, I noticed the magic portfolio lets you create +50% HD constructs. Considering how obscenely powerful things like triple advanced ironwyrm golems (Draconomicon) are, you'd think that the IH Bestiary golems would likewise be just as ridiculous, even at the first one level.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Deinos, post: 5205796, member: 74998"] Er... well, I wouldn't really argue otherwise. My main experience with epic level gaming has been level 30-50, pre-IH stuff, to be honest. I haven't much analyzed anything past level 60-70. If you're going to be a high level magic user, not focused on shapeshifting into a better melee combatant, like the druid, why not look at the Cosmic Descryer PrC? Every 4 levels, you get +4 HD to most summons, so at level 101 or so, you're summoning 98 or so HD creatures. With a pinch of metamagic, each individual monster summoning spell, could itself summon around 4-8, 90-95 HD, monsters. If you're a double portfolio character, you can easily be summoning 180 HD creatures by that time, and (again I'm not too well versed as to why Time Stop sucks at level 100) you can conceivably be summoning HORDES of level 180 creatures per round. Melee characters have always been the ones to dish out the pain in hand to hand, but magic characters are the ones who, so many times per day, just spew out billions of minions that power attack everything into oblivion. Also, I noticed the magic portfolio lets you create +50% HD constructs. Considering how obscenely powerful things like triple advanced ironwyrm golems (Draconomicon) are, you'd think that the IH Bestiary golems would likewise be just as ridiculous, even at the first one level. [/QUOTE]

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