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Artificer; a class running wild?
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<blockquote data-quote="jodyjohnson" data-source="post: 1871200" data-attributes="member: 5590"><p>The original poster is looking for a way to keep artificers from scribing a large number of spells per day.</p><p></p><p>Several posters including myself have reinforced the rule presented by the original poster that a magic item takes one day (8 hours of crafting) minimum (DMG p283). </p><p></p><p>In addition we have asserted that each spell scribed is a single item and is limited to one per day (when in doubt ignore the chart). This solves the issue - you cannot scribe more than one spell per day. This works equally well for all item creation scenarios.</p><p></p><p>Some DMs may rule differently.</p><p></p><p>In the case where they rule differently, the spells scribed per day is limited by spell slots available. Given this alternate interpretation espoused by Uzagi, Artificers would be restricted to infusion slots available to avoid the 40 spells/day situation.</p><p></p><p>It also has the side effect of preventing Artificers from emulating spells above 6th level which I do not believe was the intention.</p><p></p><p>However, while this works for Artificers, it does not solve the issue in regard to Warlocks (CA) which Uzagi has introduced.</p><p></p><p>While Invocations (spell-like abilities) lack the 'just like a spell' text, they do have levels which will allow us to expend an appropriate spell level for item creation. The difficulty is that there is no limit on invocations per day. They are useable at will.</p><p></p><p>While solving the problem situation for Artificers, the same scenario can come up with Warlocks emulating spells via UMD.</p><p></p><p>A situation which apparently never came up for the designers because I assert they intend that only one spell can be scribed per day at best.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jodyjohnson, post: 1871200, member: 5590"] The original poster is looking for a way to keep artificers from scribing a large number of spells per day. Several posters including myself have reinforced the rule presented by the original poster that a magic item takes one day (8 hours of crafting) minimum (DMG p283). In addition we have asserted that each spell scribed is a single item and is limited to one per day (when in doubt ignore the chart). This solves the issue - you cannot scribe more than one spell per day. This works equally well for all item creation scenarios. Some DMs may rule differently. In the case where they rule differently, the spells scribed per day is limited by spell slots available. Given this alternate interpretation espoused by Uzagi, Artificers would be restricted to infusion slots available to avoid the 40 spells/day situation. It also has the side effect of preventing Artificers from emulating spells above 6th level which I do not believe was the intention. However, while this works for Artificers, it does not solve the issue in regard to Warlocks (CA) which Uzagi has introduced. While Invocations (spell-like abilities) lack the 'just like a spell' text, they do have levels which will allow us to expend an appropriate spell level for item creation. The difficulty is that there is no limit on invocations per day. They are useable at will. While solving the problem situation for Artificers, the same scenario can come up with Warlocks emulating spells via UMD. A situation which apparently never came up for the designers because I assert they intend that only one spell can be scribed per day at best. [/QUOTE]
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