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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RealAlHazred" data-source="post: 6749795" data-attributes="member: 25818">Originally posted by rampant:I think the call to ditch the check for SSI may have been in the other thread. The point is that it's a bad idea You've explained a bunch of stuff about the weapon and armor augments, I don't see where you explained that aspect specifically. You go on about cantrips and energy types and all sorts of stuff, but I don't see where you explain why that translates into burning craft reserve for the day. And yes I call it a daily because using (at least before level 9) is on a daily limit. If you could use it five times per day, I would call it a daily, because that's the clock it's on. As for the SSI spells You're the one who decided to junk the spell slot cost. I just thought the craft reserve cost was a bit prohibitive especially since they were already paying the spell slot cost. I was thinking that you could lower it a bit so that keeping a fully up-casted spell stored away somewhere for emergencies wasn't gonna bleed you dry. I'm looking at the original 3.5 artificer and I don't see a spell storing power anywhere, much less one that requires a check. Also 23 spells known is far from a small number, also I never said it had to be a small number just not a theoretically infinite one where they don't pay opportunity costs to learn new ones. Of course that's not even getting into how hard you're trying to make the artificer a wonky primary caster instead of a support monster. Potions are nice and all but not enough to carry the class, SSI can only be used by the artificer himself, and the infusions are just normal spells essentially. Scrolls and SSI are the real hook for the class and they can't even use them properly, well that's a bit unfair to scrolls I guess since they were always designed to be caster specific, but SSI is where your artificer could really have made a name for itself and because you force the artificer to cast his own SSI spells you loose that potential. If the Artificer could hand out a few spells stored in items before a fight and let his allies trigger them it would be amazing. Which is why you need the spell slot cost to be honest. The most terrifying artificers were never the ones with the rods of railgun, or the buffed out god armor that made them +50 at everything. The really scary hammerjockies were the ones that remembered what an artificer was for: Party Enhancement. </blockquote>

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