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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RealAlHazred" data-source="post: 6749843" data-attributes="member: 25818">Originally posted by Tempest_Stormwind:Thanks. FWIW, the original WotC one has grown on me to a point, but only if one changes the scrolls to arcane devices (see here for why(x); it's more than just the cosmetic change), and while I grudgingly admit it's an artificer, it's not the Eberron artificer. That's where this steps in. I'm still trying to come up with a better level 17 ability for the Golemists guild, and that's the last bit of new mechanics the class needs before it's finished, unless testing reveals something weird - say, with the consequences of removing Concentration from a small set of equipment buffs. (A potential fallback if this is problematic instead has those spells behave at a higher level than the spell slot actually used on them, tuned to make up for the artificer's slow spell level progression - i.e. an artificer's 2/3s casting would still produce Magic Weapon, Magic Armor, and Elemental Weapon at the same bonus as a full-casting wizard, but only those spells.) Regarding tweaks to existing mechanics, I'm also contemplating removing the heavy crossbow, as while crossbows are some of the best fits, I don't want it to be too shoehorned into using them. EDIT: Turns out a simple "those spells behave as if they were cast in a slot one higher than they actually were" gets you pretty darn close to what a wizard can do. Just a matter of putting it in the right place in the progression, then. I wouldn't say he ripped me a new one, but he was appropriately brutal, and I'm very appreciative of that - it made my bad ideas die and a better class emerged from it. That's half of why I will always ask for people to Rip Me A New One, rather than PEACH. (The other half is that every single word in that term is something that goes without saying in a conversation (which is <a href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/please" target="_blank">voluntary</a>, based upon <a href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/examine" target="_blank">reading</a> what the others write, but <a href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/and" target="_blank">also</a> soliciting <a href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/critique" target="_blank">feedback</a> and assuming the action is done in <a href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/honestly" target="_blank">good faith</a>), so about the only good thing it has going for it is a catchy acronym.) Survival of the fittest always beats "not in the face" when designing rules.</blockquote>

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