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<blockquote data-quote="ruleslawyer" data-source="post: 1641719" data-attributes="member: 1757">The same point that there is in a bard (a d6 hit die, medium BAB, light-armor-only class) having the ability to confer direct combat bonuses by using bardic music. Artificers are support characters; like bards, their major talent lies in providing enhanced combat and other abilities to the other members of the party, thus boosting the power of the party as a whole. UMD is really a side ability of the class.That said, I'd prefer to give artificers the ability to substitute their Int modifier for their Cha modifier to the skill check for UMD. To me, UMD for rogues and bards essentially involves &quot;bluffing&quot; an item to think that you're the right person to use it. In the case of the artificer, the UMD ability seems to come from their knowledge of magic items, which strikes me as an Int kind of thing. Making Int the artificer's key ability for UMD would also boost the power of the class a little, since it would reduce the need for multiple ability dependency.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ruleslawyer, post: 1641719, member: 1757"] The same point that there is in a bard (a d6 hit die, medium BAB, light-armor-only class) having the ability to confer direct combat bonuses by using bardic music. Artificers are support characters; like bards, their major talent lies in providing enhanced combat and other abilities to the other members of the party, thus boosting the power of the party as a whole. UMD is really a side ability of the class. That said, I'd prefer to give artificers the ability to substitute their Int modifier for their Cha modifier to the skill check for UMD. To me, UMD for rogues and bards essentially involves "bluffing" an item to think that you're the right person to use it. In the case of the artificer, the UMD ability seems to come from their knowledge of magic items, which strikes me as an Int kind of thing. Making Int the artificer's key ability for UMD would also boost the power of the class a little, since it would reduce the need for multiple ability dependency. [/QUOTE]

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