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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 4176234" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>Consider that the Fighter and Wizard bonus feats, on the other hand, specifically require you to meet prerequisites, while the Artificer text doesn't mention them... and we have this line from the Monster Manual:</p><p><em>Sometimes a creature has one or more bonus feats, marked with a superscript B (B). Creatures often do not have the prerequisites for a bonus feat. If this is so, the creature can still use the feat.</em></p><p></p><p>Now, if this applies to all bonus feats (except where specified otherwise), then the Fighter and the Wizard only need to meet prerequisites because their Bonus Feat Class Feature says so... if that text were omitted, then as bonus feats, they could be taken regardless of prerequisites. (And the text in the Monk's Bonus Feat Class Feature, stating that prerequisites need not be met, is redundant.) ... and the Artificer can take any feat that meets the criteria, whether or not he has the prerequisites.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, if it only applies to racial bonus feats (implied by the location but not the wording of the Monster Manual line), then the text under Fighter and Wizard requiring prerequisites be met is redundant. ... and the Artificer must meet prerequisites for his bonus feats.</p><p></p><p>I'm inclined to assume the latter, and the Artificer must meet requirements... but either way, the precedent shown by the Fighter, Wizard, and Monk is that a bonus feat class feature should specify one way or the other, and the Artificer's class feature is thus poorly written by that precedent.</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 4176234, member: 1656"] Consider that the Fighter and Wizard bonus feats, on the other hand, specifically require you to meet prerequisites, while the Artificer text doesn't mention them... and we have this line from the Monster Manual: [i]Sometimes a creature has one or more bonus feats, marked with a superscript B (B). Creatures often do not have the prerequisites for a bonus feat. If this is so, the creature can still use the feat.[/i] Now, if this applies to all bonus feats (except where specified otherwise), then the Fighter and the Wizard only need to meet prerequisites because their Bonus Feat Class Feature says so... if that text were omitted, then as bonus feats, they could be taken regardless of prerequisites. (And the text in the Monk's Bonus Feat Class Feature, stating that prerequisites need not be met, is redundant.) ... and the Artificer can take any feat that meets the criteria, whether or not he has the prerequisites. On the other hand, if it only applies to racial bonus feats (implied by the location but not the wording of the Monster Manual line), then the text under Fighter and Wizard requiring prerequisites be met is redundant. ... and the Artificer must meet prerequisites for his bonus feats. I'm inclined to assume the latter, and the Artificer must meet requirements... but either way, the precedent shown by the Fighter, Wizard, and Monk is that a bonus feat class feature should specify one way or the other, and the Artificer's class feature is thus poorly written by that precedent. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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