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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6507298" data-attributes="member: 177">Your statement was general - time permitting, the best practice is always to fix, with no exceptions given.&nbsp; So, by implication, yes, you said it was for everyone.Answer:&nbsp; Crews are not digital, with only one desire.&nbsp; Nor are their desires digital, &quot;full-bore or none at all&quot;.&nbsp; Multiple desires with multiple levels of importance, that changes with time and situation.&nbsp; If the crew wants some challenge, then a system that includes it may be a useful thing.&nbsp; And &quot;desires challenge&quot; does to equate to &quot;desires a GM that never fudges anything&quot;, anyway.Fudging is not necessarily removal of all challenge, all the time.&nbsp; A fudge can be a rare thing, leaving the system (and system-dependent challenge) intact the vast majority of the time.&nbsp; A fudge can be a mere correction of pacing, not really altering the challenge or difficulty of the encounter.&nbsp; A fudge can be an *increase* in challenge (as players of videogames will attest, as a common way for the challenge to increase is for the computer to selectively break rules) - GMs do sometimes fudge to keep a bad guy alive, you know.&nbsp; So, overall, the challenge-orientation of the players is kind of irrelevant to whether fudging is an appropriate tool.And also note that there is a non-system element to consider - the GM.&nbsp; Even if the system and players are all about challenge, the GM is *NOT PERFECT* - he or she can make mistakes, or misjudge.&nbsp; Fudging can be done to maintain the level of challenge desired that, due to GM misstep, was not achieved.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 6507298, member: 177"] Your statement was general - time permitting, the best practice is always to fix, with no exceptions given. So, by implication, yes, you said it was for everyone. Answer: Crews are not digital, with only one desire. Nor are their desires digital, "full-bore or none at all". Multiple desires with multiple levels of importance, that changes with time and situation. If the crew wants some challenge, then a system that includes it may be a useful thing. And "desires challenge" does to equate to "desires a GM that never fudges anything", anyway. Fudging is not necessarily removal of all challenge, all the time. A fudge can be a rare thing, leaving the system (and system-dependent challenge) intact the vast majority of the time. A fudge can be a mere correction of pacing, not really altering the challenge or difficulty of the encounter. A fudge can be an *increase* in challenge (as players of videogames will attest, as a common way for the challenge to increase is for the computer to selectively break rules) - GMs do sometimes fudge to keep a bad guy alive, you know. So, overall, the challenge-orientation of the players is kind of irrelevant to whether fudging is an appropriate tool. And also note that there is a non-system element to consider - the GM. Even if the system and players are all about challenge, the GM is *NOT PERFECT* - he or she can make mistakes, or misjudge. Fudging can be done to maintain the level of challenge desired that, due to GM misstep, was not achieved. [/QUOTE]

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