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<blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 8169811" data-attributes="member: 6799649"><p>There are a handful of effects in 5e that are NOT spells, but last for a certain duration "or until you lose your concentration (as if you were concentrating on a spell)".</p><p></p><p>So how can these effects be combined with concentrating on an ACTUAL spell?</p><p></p><p>According to the PHB p203, the following factors can break concentration:-</p><p></p><p>1) casting <strong>another</strong> spell that requires concentration: you lose concentration on a spell if you cast another spell that requires concentration. You can't concentrate on two spells at once</p><p></p><p>2) taking damage</p><p></p><p>3) become incapacitated or killed</p><p></p><p>4) the DM may decide that certain environmental phenomena require you to succeed on a DC 10 Con save or lose concentration</p><p></p><p>So 2, 3 and 4 are obvious. The non-spell effects under discussion are definitely lost if you take damage or get shaken up and fail the save, or become incapacitated or die.</p><p></p><p>But what about casting a concentration spell?</p><p></p><p>What about losing a spell upon which you are concentrating?</p><p></p><p>As an example, let's say we want to build a ranger using the new options in Tasha's Cauldron of Everything. The Favoured Foe feature allows you to mark any target you hit, and you do extra damage to that target every time you hit it while it has the mark. This mark lasts for 1 minute or until you lose concentration (as if you were concentrating on a spell).</p><p></p><p>Could I mark a creature and then cast Searing Smite-a concentration spell-without losing the mark? Searing Smite IS a spell, but it is NOT <em>another</em> spell, it is the only 'spell' upon which you are concentrating.</p><p></p><p>Could I cast Searing Smite and then mark it with Favoured Foe, without losing the spell? After all, I have NOT 'cast a spell' that requires concentration.</p><p></p><p>The rules for concentration say that you can't concentrate on two 'spells' at once, but Favoured Foe is NOT a spell, so that rule doesn't apply here.</p><p></p><p>Has there been any official guidance on this?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arial Black, post: 8169811, member: 6799649"] There are a handful of effects in 5e that are NOT spells, but last for a certain duration "or until you lose your concentration (as if you were concentrating on a spell)". So how can these effects be combined with concentrating on an ACTUAL spell? According to the PHB p203, the following factors can break concentration:- 1) casting [B]another[/B] spell that requires concentration: you lose concentration on a spell if you cast another spell that requires concentration. You can't concentrate on two spells at once 2) taking damage 3) become incapacitated or killed 4) the DM may decide that certain environmental phenomena require you to succeed on a DC 10 Con save or lose concentration So 2, 3 and 4 are obvious. The non-spell effects under discussion are definitely lost if you take damage or get shaken up and fail the save, or become incapacitated or die. But what about casting a concentration spell? What about losing a spell upon which you are concentrating? As an example, let's say we want to build a ranger using the new options in Tasha's Cauldron of Everything. The Favoured Foe feature allows you to mark any target you hit, and you do extra damage to that target every time you hit it while it has the mark. This mark lasts for 1 minute or until you lose concentration (as if you were concentrating on a spell). Could I mark a creature and then cast Searing Smite-a concentration spell-without losing the mark? Searing Smite IS a spell, but it is NOT [I]another[/I] spell, it is the only 'spell' upon which you are concentrating. Could I cast Searing Smite and then mark it with Favoured Foe, without losing the spell? After all, I have NOT 'cast a spell' that requires concentration. The rules for concentration say that you can't concentrate on two 'spells' at once, but Favoured Foe is NOT a spell, so that rule doesn't apply here. Has there been any official guidance on this? [/QUOTE]
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