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<blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 4846092" data-attributes="member: 40961"><p>If the OP's scenario happens, I probably end up playing 5e.</p><p> </p><p>I love 4e. Right now. I loved 3e too, though. And then after 8 years I knew all of its flaws, all of its warts, all of its hidden blemishes, and I knew them intimately. And I was ready for something new to come along that fixed as much of those things as possible.</p><p> </p><p>And I knew that it would get other things wrong. And it would try new things, and some of those new things would fall flat. But gaming is a journey and not a destination, so I'm fine with that.</p><p> </p><p>Now I'm playing 4e. And slowly, over time, I'm starting to notice some flaws in the system. They tend not to be the sorts of flaws that get complained about online, because unfortunately a significant amount of the complaining about 4e is driven by trolls and people only vaguely familiar with the system. But eventually that will die out and we'll get to the point we were in during 3e, discussing 3e's flaws and how to solve them. And we'll do the same thing. We'll talk about the problems with 4e, we'll talk about how we get past those problems, and those conversations will enter into the culture and the collective mind of the gaming community, and in some small way effect the development of 5th edition when its time comes.</p><p> </p><p>And 5e will do the same things. Fix some stuff well. Fix some stuff awkwardly. Update the game to match newer fantasy concepts. Try some new experiments, and succeed and really broaden the game. Try some new experiments and fail. And the cycle will continue and if I'm playing rpgs that many years in the future I'll probably be part of it and probably have a great time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cadfan, post: 4846092, member: 40961"] If the OP's scenario happens, I probably end up playing 5e. I love 4e. Right now. I loved 3e too, though. And then after 8 years I knew all of its flaws, all of its warts, all of its hidden blemishes, and I knew them intimately. And I was ready for something new to come along that fixed as much of those things as possible. And I knew that it would get other things wrong. And it would try new things, and some of those new things would fall flat. But gaming is a journey and not a destination, so I'm fine with that. Now I'm playing 4e. And slowly, over time, I'm starting to notice some flaws in the system. They tend not to be the sorts of flaws that get complained about online, because unfortunately a significant amount of the complaining about 4e is driven by trolls and people only vaguely familiar with the system. But eventually that will die out and we'll get to the point we were in during 3e, discussing 3e's flaws and how to solve them. And we'll do the same thing. We'll talk about the problems with 4e, we'll talk about how we get past those problems, and those conversations will enter into the culture and the collective mind of the gaming community, and in some small way effect the development of 5th edition when its time comes. And 5e will do the same things. Fix some stuff well. Fix some stuff awkwardly. Update the game to match newer fantasy concepts. Try some new experiments, and succeed and really broaden the game. Try some new experiments and fail. And the cycle will continue and if I'm playing rpgs that many years in the future I'll probably be part of it and probably have a great time. [/QUOTE]
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