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<blockquote data-quote="APewty" data-source="post: 4509540" data-attributes="member: 71816"><p>First of all, are you saying you don't consider me an intellectual?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Secondly, the post quoted doesn't pass any test for being anti-intellectual.</p><p> </p><p>Thirdly, the world as a whole regards academic institutions as being more liberal in nature. It's a given.</p><p> </p><p>Fourthly, were I anti-anything, would you be grateful, even joyful if I said whatever I said with a satirical cartoon?</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Fifthly, what you say and have been saying reeks of elitism. If that's what you are, I'm not inspired to talk further on any matter in which you can't treat me with respect and equality. Or is that what liberals give lip service to but fail to actually do? That last sentence may seem harsh but if you go back to the first sentence you might see that I take offense to the question in the first place. Perhaps this is where I should say <em>"Yes, it should be obvious. The fact that it isn't doesn't really inspire me to talk further on this matter" </em>but the truth is that it probably is obvious because you meant what you said. Or do you think I'm an intellectual that is somehow anti-intellectual?</p><p> </p><p>Going back to Inzeladun's quote, I am against any institution of higher learning, an intellectual edifice, letting it's politics skew it's purpose or even it's intellectual credibility. That does not make me anti-intellectual.</p><p> </p><p>I'm also inclined to ask what makes you two intellectuals while excluding me from your group? If you consider me an intellectual, then you apparently are anti-intellectual too. If I am not an intellectual then what am I? Because whatever you think I am, then you are most definitely anti-that.</p><p> </p><p>I would be remiss to say that from the very beginning of this thread I supposed you truly meant that liberal=intellectual. Had you said I was anti-liberal then you would be mostly right. I don't agree that liberal=intellectual though. There are plenty of liberals and conservatives that a sane person would be hard pressed to categorize as intellectual.</p><p> </p><p>No matter how you argue it, you've intentionally insulted me, I believe with the intent to drive me from this forum. Here's a wild and crazy idea- this is your forum, and if you think I am destroying it or something, just tell me to leave! It's not a problem. Maybe some straightforward communication would be appropriate.</p><p> </p><p>Again, perhaps this seems like a very mean spirited post but I have to say I'm frustrated. I truly feel that just because you've got a dissenting voice speaking up that you're moving to quash it using this post to attack me. I also don't like elitists. If all intellectuals think they are elite, then I would truly be anti-intellectual. Fortunately, I know there are plenty learned people out there that do not place themselves above their fellow man.</p><p> </p><p>I also know that there are very intellectual people that are not elite because my best friend is the most intellectual person I know and he's....my best friend! I'll have to ask him if he thinks I'm anti-intellectual. Forgive me for taking his answer as more accurate to reality. I'll let you know what he says.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="APewty, post: 4509540, member: 71816"] First of all, are you saying you don't consider me an intellectual? Secondly, the post quoted doesn't pass any test for being anti-intellectual. Thirdly, the world as a whole regards academic institutions as being more liberal in nature. It's a given. Fourthly, were I anti-anything, would you be grateful, even joyful if I said whatever I said with a satirical cartoon? Fifthly, what you say and have been saying reeks of elitism. If that's what you are, I'm not inspired to talk further on any matter in which you can't treat me with respect and equality. Or is that what liberals give lip service to but fail to actually do? That last sentence may seem harsh but if you go back to the first sentence you might see that I take offense to the question in the first place. Perhaps this is where I should say [I]"Yes, it should be obvious. The fact that it isn't doesn't really inspire me to talk further on this matter" [/I]but the truth is that it probably is obvious because you meant what you said. Or do you think I'm an intellectual that is somehow anti-intellectual? Going back to Inzeladun's quote, I am against any institution of higher learning, an intellectual edifice, letting it's politics skew it's purpose or even it's intellectual credibility. That does not make me anti-intellectual. I'm also inclined to ask what makes you two intellectuals while excluding me from your group? If you consider me an intellectual, then you apparently are anti-intellectual too. If I am not an intellectual then what am I? Because whatever you think I am, then you are most definitely anti-that. I would be remiss to say that from the very beginning of this thread I supposed you truly meant that liberal=intellectual. Had you said I was anti-liberal then you would be mostly right. I don't agree that liberal=intellectual though. There are plenty of liberals and conservatives that a sane person would be hard pressed to categorize as intellectual. No matter how you argue it, you've intentionally insulted me, I believe with the intent to drive me from this forum. Here's a wild and crazy idea- this is your forum, and if you think I am destroying it or something, just tell me to leave! It's not a problem. Maybe some straightforward communication would be appropriate. Again, perhaps this seems like a very mean spirited post but I have to say I'm frustrated. I truly feel that just because you've got a dissenting voice speaking up that you're moving to quash it using this post to attack me. I also don't like elitists. If all intellectuals think they are elite, then I would truly be anti-intellectual. Fortunately, I know there are plenty learned people out there that do not place themselves above their fellow man. I also know that there are very intellectual people that are not elite because my best friend is the most intellectual person I know and he's....my best friend! I'll have to ask him if he thinks I'm anti-intellectual. Forgive me for taking his answer as more accurate to reality. I'll let you know what he says. [/QUOTE]
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