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<blockquote data-quote="Mr.Satan" data-source="post: 5761189" data-attributes="member: 92340"><p>The layers aren't infinite? </p><p></p><p>In 3.x the layers of each dimension are indeed infinite. From the Manual of the Planes... </p><p></p><p>LAYERED PLANES</p><p><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-size: 10px">Infinities may be broken into smaller infinities</span></span>, and planes into smaller, related planes. These layers are effectively separate planes of existence, and each layer can have its own planar traits. But the layers of a plane have an affinity to each other, and travel may be easier or more common between them.</p><p>Layers are connected to each other through a variety of planar gates, natural vortices, paths, and shifting borders.</p><p>Access to a layered plane from elsewhere usually happens on a specific layer: the first layer of the plane, which can be either the top layer or the bottom layer, depending on the specific plane. Most fixed access points (such as portals and natural vortices) reach this layer, which makes it the gateway for other layers of the plane. The plane shift spell also deposits the spellcaster on the first layer of the plane.</p><p>All layers of a plane are connected to the Astral Plane, so travelers can reach specific layers directly through spells such as astral projection. But often the first layer is the one most hospitable to planar travelers.</p><p></p><p>There are numerous other examples of them being infinite. So, your cosmology may not have them as being infinite, but the standard D&D cosmology definitely does.</p><p></p><p>A smaller infinity is still infinity. It just expands from our limited perspective at a much slower pace. :\</p><p></p><p>Infinite bigness vs. Infinite smallness...etc.</p><p></p><p>The size of a planar layer in no way hinges upon mortal perceptions. It simply IS. Sure...it's so vastly huge that different pantheons are often unaware of each other, but that in my mind would have more to do with the vastness of infinity than any actual size of anything. </p><p></p><p>It's still there. It was always linked. It just wasn't noticed by lesser beings until they discovered new territory. Thus...it would actually be infinite.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mr.Satan, post: 5761189, member: 92340"] The layers aren't infinite? In 3.x the layers of each dimension are indeed infinite. From the Manual of the Planes... LAYERED PLANES [COLOR="Red"][SIZE="2"]Infinities may be broken into smaller infinities[/SIZE][/COLOR], and planes into smaller, related planes. These layers are effectively separate planes of existence, and each layer can have its own planar traits. But the layers of a plane have an affinity to each other, and travel may be easier or more common between them. Layers are connected to each other through a variety of planar gates, natural vortices, paths, and shifting borders. Access to a layered plane from elsewhere usually happens on a specific layer: the first layer of the plane, which can be either the top layer or the bottom layer, depending on the specific plane. Most fixed access points (such as portals and natural vortices) reach this layer, which makes it the gateway for other layers of the plane. The plane shift spell also deposits the spellcaster on the first layer of the plane. All layers of a plane are connected to the Astral Plane, so travelers can reach specific layers directly through spells such as astral projection. But often the first layer is the one most hospitable to planar travelers. There are numerous other examples of them being infinite. So, your cosmology may not have them as being infinite, but the standard D&D cosmology definitely does. A smaller infinity is still infinity. It just expands from our limited perspective at a much slower pace. :\ Infinite bigness vs. Infinite smallness...etc. The size of a planar layer in no way hinges upon mortal perceptions. It simply IS. Sure...it's so vastly huge that different pantheons are often unaware of each other, but that in my mind would have more to do with the vastness of infinity than any actual size of anything. It's still there. It was always linked. It just wasn't noticed by lesser beings until they discovered new territory. Thus...it would actually be infinite. [/QUOTE]
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