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<blockquote data-quote="Rikandur Azebol" data-source="post: 5762690" data-attributes="member: 21755"><p>And ten bottles of ale for Ya, U_K. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>IMO, it is only natural that mortal thoughts about what Abyss is shouldn't imprint on whole infinite something. It can, and should, interact with something along their own kosmic size. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Just like void is between Earth and Mars. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Demons are always fun. I agree with this. But I always saw it kinda not so hot when You state that planes of Good are only singular kosmically.</p><p></p><p>Example ? One of my players in now dead campaign "Grief of Fate" was playing a barbarian that became demon lord. Created a demiplane for himself as another "layer" of Abyss to pump up his status. DM, in this case I, knowing his reasonable plan to became Demon Emperor and make kosmically shaking changes in Abyss decided that king of heaven couldn't tolerate it and sent the assasin angel with his team ... they were barely within CR range of said budding demon-lord. His most special feature at that time, except of ability to make demonic rituals (epic version of Ritual Sacrifices from "Book of Vile Darkness") was a demon-sword that could devour magic and pass it on the boss.</p><p></p><p>When initial ambush didn't finished him off, leaving him with enough HP to be able to walk normally, he raged/frienzied and butchered the super team in one round ! I was somewhat surprised with the amount of critical hits he scored this round with Improved Cleave feat, though. He gained around 4-5 levels in this one encounter. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/blush.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":blush:" title="Blush :blush:" data-shortname=":blush:" /></p><p></p><p>And didn't even declared war on Heaven. Just asked literate friend to write diplomatic letter inviting for more "playing around".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rikandur Azebol, post: 5762690, member: 21755"] And ten bottles of ale for Ya, U_K. :lol: IMO, it is only natural that mortal thoughts about what Abyss is shouldn't imprint on whole infinite something. It can, and should, interact with something along their own kosmic size. ;) Just like void is between Earth and Mars. Demons are always fun. I agree with this. But I always saw it kinda not so hot when You state that planes of Good are only singular kosmically. Example ? One of my players in now dead campaign "Grief of Fate" was playing a barbarian that became demon lord. Created a demiplane for himself as another "layer" of Abyss to pump up his status. DM, in this case I, knowing his reasonable plan to became Demon Emperor and make kosmically shaking changes in Abyss decided that king of heaven couldn't tolerate it and sent the assasin angel with his team ... they were barely within CR range of said budding demon-lord. His most special feature at that time, except of ability to make demonic rituals (epic version of Ritual Sacrifices from "Book of Vile Darkness") was a demon-sword that could devour magic and pass it on the boss. When initial ambush didn't finished him off, leaving him with enough HP to be able to walk normally, he raged/frienzied and butchered the super team in one round ! I was somewhat surprised with the amount of critical hits he scored this round with Improved Cleave feat, though. He gained around 4-5 levels in this one encounter. :blush: And didn't even declared war on Heaven. Just asked literate friend to write diplomatic letter inviting for more "playing around". [/QUOTE]
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